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Thoughts on Roadworn Fenders

#562
I have a SB RW Jazz, a SB RW P w/ a RW Jazz neck and tort guard, and a Fiesta RW P. The Jazz has DiMarzio J p'ups, the SB P has a '62 Original p'up, and the red P has a Seymour Duncan Antiquity II p'up. All are "go to" basses anytime, anywhere, for any occasion. I never really think about the finish much.

Dan
 
#563
Dan55 said:
I have a SB RW Jazz, a SB RW P w/ a RW Jazz neck and tort guard, and a Fiesta RW P. The Jazz has DiMarzio J p'ups, the SB P has a '62 Original p'up, and the red P has a Seymour Duncan Antiquity II p'up. All are "go to" basses anytime, anywhere, for any occasion. I never really think about the finish much.

Dan
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Nicely done. Will you describe the tone differences between the P's ? What about the difference between the p with j neck and straight P ? Does the jazz neck give it a slightly thinner sound ?
 
#564
Session1969 said:
Why not just get the Classic 50's in Sunburst ? It's all nitro as well .
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The non-Custom Shop basses recently available in nitro, are/were (to the best of my knowledge):

The various American Vintage Re-Issues since 1982 (3?)
The Highway One (2006-2011), not Highway 1.
The Road Worn everything.
The new Classic 50s/60s Precision/Jazz Lacquer models (probably some guitars also, but WGAF?)

The Road Worns are delicious basses. Light, resonant, rolled edge, broken in feeling necks. The pickups are MIM 56003/56004, same as pre 2008 American Standards. Also used on all the Classics and Highway Ones.
 
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Session1969 said:
Nicely done. Will you describe the tone differences between the P's ? What about the difference between the p with j neck and straight P ? Does the jazz neck give it a slightly thinner sound ?
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Actually, the P with the J neck has a bigger, punchier sound than the straight P. I don't think it is because it's a J neck. Likely just the combination of that particular neck with that particular body is more resonant or something. Both sound great, but there are differences probably only audible to the player and then only when comparing them back to back.

Dan
 
#566
2cooltoolz said:
The non-Custom Shop basses recently available in nitro, are/were (to the best of my knowledge):

The various American Vintage Re-Issues since 1982 (3?)
The Highway One (2006-2011), not Highway 1.
The Road Worn everything.
The new Classic 50s/60s Precision/Jazz Laquer models (probably some guitars also, but WGAF?)

The Road Worns are delicious basses. Light, resonant, rolled edge, broken in feeling necks. The pickups are MIM 56003/56004, same as pre 2008 American Standards. Also used on all the Classics and Highway Ones.
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Yeah, I prefer the RW's, bigtime. Coolest Fender aside from the Pino, ime. If memory serves me , the poster didn't like the RW look but wanted a nitro finish. I thought the Sunbursts were nitro, but it's the black P's that are/were for the classics.

I just committed to buying a RW P with a RW jazz neck and a Dimarzio Ultra jazz added to make it a RW P/J from our classifieds. Can't tell you how excited I am to check this baby out.
 
#567
Is the pickup placement on the RW Jazz basses closer to a ' 70's J than a newer Jazz ? That bridge pickup looks closer to the bridge than my ' 98 MIA Jazz.
 
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2cooltoolz said:
...The Road Worns are delicious basses. Light, resonant, rolled edge, broken in feeling necks. The pickups are MIM 56003/56004, same as pre 2008 American Standards. Also used on all the Classics and Highway Ones.
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I did not realize this, although I am more familiar with Jazz basses ... so the Classic Series 50's P, and the mid '06+ Hwy Ones, and the early Am Stands, Am Series Precisions all used the exact same pups ?? ... this would make even a bigger ++ in support of the already highly acclaimed Classic Series 50's P, ... what did the original Hwy 1 P's use for pickups?

... that is not the case with the J's, as the pups used in the Classic Series 60's J, the Hwy 1 and Ones were supposed to be the same ... the RW J's carry a slightly different part #, but that more than likely is due to the 'relic' on the parts, but should be the same specs ... the Am Series/Am Stands used a totally different part # pups ...

.. learn something new everyday ;)
 
#571
Found it! Looked in the 2005 Highway 1 Service Manual. Same pickup. But something else confused me. The early 2000 American Standard manual lists the 56003/56004, but the 2004 lists a different set. When you buy a 56003/56004 (56049 as a set) set from Fender, it's listed as a pre 2008 American Series! Oh well, its a pretty good pickup for around $55.

Here's some others I found.

2000 American Standard P Bass [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
0056004000 Pickup, Neck, Am. Std. P-Bass
0056003000 Pickup, Bridge, Am. Std. P-Bass

2005 Highway 1 Precision Bass [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
0056004000 Pickup, Neck, Am. Std. P-Bass
0056003000 Pickup, Bridge, Am. Std. P-Bass

2000 '57 AMERICAN VINTAGE PRECISION BASS [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
0019688000 Pickup, Neck, Am. Vintage P-Bass
0019689000 Pickup, Bridge, Am. Vintage P-Bass

2004 American Standard P Bass [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
0061277000 Pickup, Rhythm American P-Bass
0061276000 Pickup, Lead American P-Bass

2000 '62 AMERICAN VINTAGE PRECISION BASS [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
0039941000 Pickup, Neck, '62 Am.Vintage P-Bass
0039933000 Pickup, Bridge, '62 Am.Vintage P-Bass


2001 STANDARD PRECISION BASS [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
0058262000 Pickup, Neck, Mexico
0058263000 Pickup, Bridge, Mexico
 

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#572
"... it's listed as a pre 2008 American Series!"

... that makes sense, since there was no such thing as an American Standard during that time period (late 2000 to early 2008)

.. also, it is interesting that for the RW P, Fender uses the same part # for the pups as Classic 50's/Hwy One, as the Jazz uses a one-digit difference, guessing simply because of the relic that was done as mentioned before .. it appears that they do not do that with the P? ...

Thanks for posting the specs ...
 
#574
I took my dereliced Roadworn P to a rehearsal for a worship rock band that hired me for a recording session and 4 gigs. I usually take my G&Ls on these things, but looking over the band's equipment arsenal, I brought both my RW P and my L2000, thinking these guys are more traditionalists.

Started with the RW and never unplugged it.

I know this has been stated a million times, but these RW Ps just have THAT sound. The sound heard a million times on a million records. The sound and look that takes the stress out of the people that I play with.

I love my G&Ls and they are still my main basses, but the P has it's place in certain situations. It does what it does really well.

Take care!

John
 

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#576
Just want to say my RW jazz is the only instrument I have owned I am at least fairly convinced I will own forever. It has a special quality, the neck and body resonate well and the broken in feel make it a joy to play. I had the chance to try one other, while it was good I didnt feel it was as good as my SB RW. But I hadnt kept it long enough for a setup etc.

Regardless I am endlessly going to be pushing the RW series on people because they are that good :P lol at the last show I played at they asked me what year my bass was :D
 

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