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Plus their saddles don't fall out. At least the Hipshot Supertone saddles don't. I assume the Babicz saddles don't, but I've been happy enough with the Hipshot I haven't tried the Babicz.
Same. I've used Hipshots for ages on other basses. Same saddles. The Babicz seemed nice, but the bass has been with Gibson for a while now. Outcome still TBD. I do have a nickel Babicz I got for it, but now not sure I'll use it.
 
Plus their saddles don't fall out. At least the Hipshot Supertone saddles don't. I assume the Babicz saddles don't, but I've been happy enough with the Hipshot I haven't tried the Babicz.
The Babicz saddles don’t fall out either. Hipshot does have the added benefit of string spacing.
IIRC - one of them was better for Eppi applications and the other for Gibby applications due to the different body anchor styles in each bass. I’ll have to dig a bit to find which one works best with which bass.
 
The Babicz saddles don’t fall out either. Hipshot does have the added benefit of string spacing.
IIRC - one of them was better for Eppi applications and the other for Gibby applications due to the different body anchor styles in each bass. I’ll have to dig a bit to find which one works best with which bass.
I think that's moot now. Babicz has choices for both and I think Hipshot's mounting holes on the bottom are recessed a bit.
 
I think that's moot now. Babicz has choices for both and I think Hipshot's mounting holes on the bottom are recessed a bit.

Here’s my old post from a couple of years ago…

I get along with the three point just fine. Can dial it in in much less time than a Bab or Hip. That said, the hip looks sleeker and less Rube Goldberg than the three point and offers string spacing to boot. The Bab is built like a tank and is an engineering marvel.
The original Hipshot bridge was designed perfectly for stud pulling. If you crank the anchor bolts hard enough it'll rip the inserts out of a Gibson bass. It was a perfect design for an Epiphone bass with the raised shoulder anchors but not a good design for the flush mounted Gibby studs. The good news is that Hipshot has since come out with a modification that eliminates the Gibson mount issue.
 
Could be. I have no problem dissing mechanical or industrial engineers since I'm not one. I always liked using the term iE, and letting them know the i stands for imaginary...math joke...and I'm not a math major either.
√ (-1) 2³ ∑π
and it was delicious.

apologies - very geeky math joke.
√ (-1)= i
2³ = 8
∑= sum
π = pi
 
The Babicz saddles don’t fall out either. Hipshot does have the added benefit of string spacing.
IIRC - one of them was better for Eppi applications and the other for Gibby applications due to the different body anchor styles in each bass. I’ll have to dig a bit to find which one works best with which bass.
Some say that the Hipshot shouldn't be used on a Gibson as there are recesses for the raised flange on the anchor and with the flush flanges on a Gibson, it is possible to pull out the anchors. However, I would dispute that, as I have seen no problem on my own installation. It could simply be a matter of applying correct torque.
 
It can get worse...

What do you get when you cross an elephant with a grape?

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The cross product of vectors is expressed as the magnitude of the first vector multiplied by the magnitude of the second multiplied by the sine of the angle between them.
 
I haven't had the inserts lift out of either of my Gibson's with the Hipshot installed and both have been on for years. I could see it happening to someone tho. Didn't inserts shift on the some of the Les Paul Oversized basses when they were first released? I seem to remember that being an issue.
 
Some say that the Hipshot shouldn't be used on a Gibson as there are recesses for the raised flange on the anchor and with the flush flanges on a Gibson, it is possible to pull out the anchors. However, I would dispute that, as I have seen no problem on my own installation. It could simply be a matter of applying correct torque.
The problem is - there is no torque spec for those bridge bolts, and even if there was one very few bass players have access to a torque wrench with a flat blade or hex head driver attachment. Speaking from first hand experience, the Hipshot bridge did a very efficient job of pulling the studs out of my bass even after resetting the anchors with wood glue and wood spacers. I permanently solved the problem by Fenderizing the Hipshot via drilling four countersunk holes in the baseplate and screwing it down to the body, works fantastic now and the mod is barely visible…
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The Babicz saddles don’t fall out either. Hipshot does have the added benefit of string spacing.
IIRC - one of them was better for Eppi applications and the other for Gibby applications due to the different body anchor styles in each bass. I’ll have to dig a bit to find which one works best with which bass.

I think that's moot now. Babicz has choices for both and I think Hipshot's mounting holes on the bottom are recessed a bit.

Babicz makes two versions, one with a flat base, for Gibson-style flush inserts (they do have their own inserts available for separate purchase, that are flush), and one with recesses machined in for Epiphone-style not-flush/shouldered inserts.

Iirc, they're the same price, and the recesses on the bottom of the Epi version is the only difference; but, I think the Gibson version is available in more color options?



:)
 
I haven't had the inserts lift out of either of my Gibson's with the Hipshot installed and both have been on for years. I could see it happening to someone tho. Didn't inserts shift on the some of the Les Paul Oversized basses when they were first released? I seem to remember that being an issue.
Same. Love the bridge. I just wish the front were flattened instead of curved, for aesthetic purposes. Third bolt hole be damned.