Thunderbird Club

[Gaolee]

Yep, a '60s vintage Harmony hollow-body. They are climbing into the upper range of "asking price", once being very affordable. Her's is missing the white "batwing" pg that came on it.

She could make a cigar-box bass sound awesome.

She could make a washtub and broom handle sound awesome.

 

[Gaolee]

Interesting.....my white one, built Dec. 2019, weighs the same - 8.998 lbs.
That seems remarkably consistent, especially for Gibson/Epiphone

That's well within the margin of error for a postal scale, especially the one I have that weighs up to 200 lbs or so.

 

[JIO]

Now that would be interesting, I've never done that but every time I hear the term "two bassists" I think of Strawberry Alarm Clock who were supposed to have had two bassists in the band although I only heard one but this one really had two bassists.

Herbie Flowers playing both upright and electric bass.



Herbie Flowers: The Story Behind Lou Reed’s “Walk on the Wild Side” Bass Line

In the Visconti breakdown of Heroes, he said Bowie deliberately was referencing the groove of "Waiting For My Man" - I never made that connection - but now that I know, it's pretty clear.



...so it didn't surprise me finding this

 

[StephnG]

No body did what they did as far as I know. They did "fusion" in a way that was interesting and entertaining, and not just for people who like to hear players put in odd parts that barely work just because they can. I had a number of their albums years ago. Saw them once. I believe they opened for Stevie Ray V. the first time I saw him. Maybe. Too many years and substances ago.

Agreed!
What I want to know is who's playing bass on the "JL" video!? It doesn't look like "Andy West" so second guess would be "Jerry Peek" although the times I saw him with the "SMP"
He didn't have long hair & looked like this:


SO WHO is playing bass on that video is the $64 question!?

 

[JJR58]

She could make a washtub and broom handle sound awesome.

Wish the sound was better, just some more of her talents.
Incredible!

 

[PhR75]

Yup me too!! I think they were one of THE BEST Ever! The elements they incorporated in their brand of "fusion" was second to none!
Albums like "Dregs Of the Earth" and "What If" are absolute masterpieces IMHO

Those are my favs too. "Odyssey" and "I'm Freaking Out" are their best prog epics.

I also have this self-released reissue of their self-released debut:

 

[bobyoung53]

And I read Duane Allman got the idea from seeing James Brown.

That's right, I forgot about that, this is interesting and tells why he originally had two, I don't know if this is urban legend or not (it's probably true) but the whole article is interesting, it also has the Allman Brothers Band, Grateful Dead, Doobie Brothers and Tedeschi-Trucks Band.

"For James Brown, it all began in the early 1960s. Back when Clayton Fillyau was the drummer, he had only one of each musician. Before one particular performance, the band rebelled against Brown for something and refused to play. James acquiesced to their demands and the show went on. But after the performance, Brown swore “I’ll never be caught without two of everything.”
"Both a perfectionist and harsh task-master, Brown kept to his word, hiring multiple musicians for each instrument in the group. From the mid 1960s to the early 1970s, the two most famous of Brown’s drummers were Clyde Stubblefield, and John “Jabo” Starks. These two artists created the groove for many of Brown’s hits, and were the architects of modern funk drumming."

Edit, forgot the link:

Why Did James Brown Have Two Drummers? (and what bands have Double Drums)

 

[JIO]

Did someone say "drag"?

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[PhR75]

Agreed!
What I want to know is who's playing bass on the "JL" video!? It doesn't look like "Andy West" so second guess would be "Jerry Peek" although the times I saw him with the "SMP"
He didn't have long hair & looked like this:


SO WHO is playing bass on that video is the $64 question!?

It's Dave LaRue. He was Morse's bassist after Jerry Peek.

 

[Stealth57]

I'll bring a nice short dress - you can take me for a ride

Ahem...

 

[StephnG]

It's Dave LaRue. He was Morse's bassist after Jerry Peek.

And that was going to be my third guess (why am I not surprised?) Not because "I knew that" but like "JC" he's been Everywhere Man!

 

[PhR75]

With the Allman's Jaimoe and Trucks had different influences. Jaimoe was rock and Trucks was more Jazz.

Wasn't it the other way round?

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

I'll be there in less than a month..........I'll bring a nice short dress - you can take me for a ride

“no grass, no gas…..”

 

[dagrev]

Agreed!
What I want to know is who's playing bass on the "JL" video!? It doesn't look like "Andy West" so second guess would be "Jerry Peek" although the times I saw him with the "SMP"
He didn't have long hair & looked like this:


SO WHO is playing bass on that video is the $64 question!?

Yeah, you got me on that that one. I'd go with Peek if I had to guess.

BTW: Morse has to be one of the most underrated guitarists of all time. Speed isn't everything by any means, but he's the second fastest player I ever heard.

 

[Stealth57]

“no grass, no gas…..”

I do believe that bumper sticker was a little different

 

[dagrev]

It's Dave LaRue. He was Morse's bassist after Jerry Peek.

Ah, that makes sense. I was thinking there was someone else, but LaRue wasn't rattling around in my head. He is or was part owner of Rocket Music in FL.

 

[dagrev]

Wasn't it the other way round?

I don't believe so because I thought/expected it to be how you suggested and thought it odd (stereotype thing). But it's been years since I saw/read that. I could be wrong.

 

[PhR75]

I don't believe so because I thought/expected it to be how you suggested and thought it odd (stereotype thing). But it's been years since I saw/read that. I could be wrong.

I recall reading that Jaimoe was the one who introduced Coltrane's "All Blues"* to the band and "Dreams" was loosely based on that. Jaimoe also used the trad. grip.

From wiki:
According to The Wall Street Journal, Jaimoe's "passion for jazz helped form the nascent Allman Brothers Band's improvisational approach, which incorporated blues, country and Western swing into a unique musical approach that nodded toward the Grateful Dead's West Coast explorations but never became as loosey-goosey."[4]

“Music is music, and there's no such things as jazz or rock ’n’ roll,” Jaimoe told the WSJ. “I wanted to be the world's greatest jazz drummer, and I thought rock or funk were too easy—then I got a chance and couldn't play what needed to be played. I had to learn, and music was everything to me.”

*Miles Davis' "All Blues". Shows how much I know about jazz...

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Yes, they weigh more or less than white or burst VPs.

I KNEW IT!!!!!!!

 

[Miles_ONeal]

A little off the straight path but I figure a few of you may be interested.
Just near my place we have The Steam & Machinery Museum.
They have a lot of stuff that lives there plus other stuff that comes in when they have an open day.
One of the attractions is a little steam train that came out of an old mine (I think) that runs on a 2ft narrow gauge track around the site.
Other items include tractors and stationary engines. Some steam some diesel. Last time I went (pre Covid) there was a little single cylinder job, 1 cylinder but 5 litres capacity!
Trucks get a run including Chev Blitz and sometimes a Stanley Steamer is there.

Have a look if you like.
The website is www.csmm.com.au .

They live? Steampunk is real!

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Ed King (later in Skynyrd) may have played some bass when with them--since he didn't mind switching to bass from guitar when needed. Just a guess and likely not a good one.

I don't know that they had two bassists playing on the same song together, but Ed did play some bass wit them.