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Thunderbird Club

From all that I've heard so far.
You're always on point.


Besides the fact that I do I always try to keep the mindset that I have a lot more to learn.......because I do ;). Since I've been out here and especially through the pandemic when we were quarantined 23 hours a day I've been pretty much woodshedding all the time, half of that is learning my limitations and where I can improve. I used to be really good you know :laugh:.
 
Besides the fact that I do I always try to keep the mindset that I have a lot more to learn.......because I do ;). Since I've been out here and especially through the pandemic when we were quarantined 23 hours a day I've been pretty much woodshedding all the time, half of that is learning my limitations and where I can improve. I used to be really good you know :laugh:.

Being self-taught and not particularly self-consequent, I tend to fend well when I find myself in the deep-end of an improv jam session. And I don't mean "blues jam" - I play with cats with diverse catalogs who are open to going as far out as controllable. What that requires for me specifically is coming up with solid, fresh, groove-centric bass. I totally key-off the drummer, and once we lock - everyone else does their thing on top of us. Those regular weekly jam-sessions were/are 'school' for me. If I drop the ball - the jam falls apart. Keeps me 'in the moment'.
 
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Being self-taught and not particularly self-consequent, I tend to fend well when I find myself in the deep-end of an improv jam session. And I don't mean "blues jam" - I play with cats with diverse catalogs who are open to going as far out as controllable. What that requires for me specifically is coming up with solid, fresh, groove-centric bass. I totally key-off the drummer, and once we lock - everyone else does their thing on top of us. Those regular weekly jam-sessions were/are 'school' for me. If I drop the ball, and the jam falls apart. Keeps me 'in the moment'.


Yes, I like it wild too. The looser the better. Same here, I stick right with the drummer but will go off on tangents when I feel it's appropriate.
 
That's right. Her musical maturity on the bass belies her years.

That never surprises me. Something about music/musicians being phenoms young isn't that unusual historically. Visual artists usually need decades to 'mature' - where as musicians can blow your mind as kids. I grew up with a friend who was a phenomenal musician. Mostly an awesome drummer, but he could pick up any instrument and quickly master it. Jaco was like that - gifted.
 
Besides the fact that I do I always try to keep the mindset that I have a lot more to learn.......because I do ;). Since I've been out here and especially through the pandemic when we were quarantined 23 hours a day I've been pretty much woodshedding all the time, half of that is learning my limitations and where I can improve. I used to be really good you know :laugh:.
All that is a sign of wisdom. You're a good man and in good company.
"The more I learn, the more I realize how much I don't know." (Albert Einstein)

It's the people who have actually stopped learning for fear of learning something they didn't want to know that worry me.
 
Yes, I like it wild too. The looser the better. Same here, I stick right with the drummer but will go off on tangents when I feel it's appropriate.

We've had nights with two bass-players. I let the other bass player start/progress until I determine their sonic involvement and counter-point it. They play low - I play high, they play roots - I play melodic etc... so fun!
 
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All that is a sign of wisdom. You're a good man and in good company.
"The more I learn, the more I realize how much I don't know." (Albert Einstein)

It's the people who have actually stopped learning for fear of learning something they didn't want to know that worry me.

I think the thing that stops a lot of learning is intimidation. I felt a bit timid jamming live with Steve MaKay (ex-sax-man with Iggy Pop who lived in Pacifica) and my friend Thollom Madonas (avaunt guard pianist) but the second time around I relaxed and played much better. I never say "I can't play at the same level as ____" - I just keep my ears open and know that we are all in the same boat regardless of our level of musicianship. The worse thing you can do is try to 'impress' in that situation by not respecting what's we are expected to do/provide -
 
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I think the thing that stops a lot of learning is intimidation. I felt a bit timid jamming live with Steve MaKay (ex-sax-man with Iggy Pop who lived in Pacifica) and my friend Thollom Madonas (avaunt guard pianist) but the second time around I relaxed and played much better. I never say "I can't play at the same level as ____" - I just keep my ears open and know that we are all in the same boat regardless of our level of musicianship. The worse thing you can do is try to 'impress' in that situation by not respecting what's we are expected to do/provide -


100% and I've had my share of it.
 
We've had nights with two bass-players. I let the other bass player start/progress until I determine their sonic involvement and counter-point it. They play low - I play high, they play roots - I play melodic etc... so fun!


Now that would be interesting, I've never done that but every time I hear the term "two bassists" I think of Strawberry Alarm Clock who were supposed to have had two bassists in the band although I only heard one but this one really had two bassists.

Herbie Flowers playing both upright and electric bass.



Herbie Flowers: The Story Behind Lou Reed’s “Walk on the Wild Side” Bass Line
 
Mr Beck gettin' it on with the ladies -


Jeff Beck seems to like performing with undiscovered young (women) performers



And has a wide range of musical friends. From Billy Gibbons to Jimmy Page.

Note that there is one difference between Beck and all the other musicians on stage.
Jeff Beck does not wear in ear monitors. The stage is loud so that he can hear what is going on. I wonder if he is a bit hard of hearng.
 

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