Thunderbird Club

[RedVee]

A little off the straight path but I figure a few of you may be interested.
Just near my place we have The Steam & Machinery Museum.
They have a lot of stuff that lives there plus other stuff that comes in when they have an open day.
One of the attractions is a little steam train that came out of an old mine (I think) that runs on a 2ft narrow gauge track around the site.
Other items include tractors and stationary engines. Some steam some diesel. Last time I went (pre Covid) there was a little single cylinder job, 1 cylinder but 5 litres capacity!
Trucks get a run including Chev Blitz and sometimes a Stanley Steamer is there.

Have a look if you like.
The website is www.csmm.com.au .

 

[dagrev]

I think the thing that stops a lot of learning is intimidation. I felt a bit timid jamming live with Steve MaKay (ex-sax-man with Iggy Pop who lived in Pacifica) and my friend Thollom Madonas (avaunt guard pianist) but the second time around I relaxed and played much better. I never say "I can't play at the same level as ____" - I just keep my ears open and know that we are all in the same boat regardless of our level of musicianship. The worse thing you can do is try to 'impress' in that situation by not respecting what's we are expected to do/provide -

In music intimidation can be huge. It can be for me. (For other areas of life there are a number of other factors as to why we avoid learning.) It's true in every area of life, but certainly with music trying to be "better" than you actually are is a sure way to make you sound worse than you actually are. My approach is to try to have good timing (nothing matters much if you don't), and play well at my level, but try to push myself a little in the process, then have the good sense to know when I've overplayed my skill level.

I was self-taught as well but my teacher was awful.....

 

[dagrev]

Now that would be interesting, I've never done that but every time I hear the term "two bassists" I think of Strawberry Alarm Clock who were supposed to have had two bassists in the band although I only heard one but this one really had two bassists.

Ed King (later in Skynyrd) may have played some bass when with them--since he didn't mind switching to bass from guitar when needed. Just a guess and likely not a good one.

 

[dagrev]

No kicking and screaming over that by a lot of folks here!


Love that Tele! It would be in regular rotation with my birds if it were here.
As it is, this is my most played Fender.
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Modern Player Tele with some very warm humbuckers in it. if I could find another one at a reasonable cost I’d probably convert it to a TeleBird, really hooked on the bird ergos vs Fender.

Nice!

I find Thunderbirds (the few that don't neck dive if you can find them ), are most comfortable for me, then the '55 Pbass, followed by my G&L maybe. I would love to have Thunderbird pickups in a late 50s style body.

 

[dagrev]

During the 80s I wondered why 38 Special had two drummers. Then I didn't think about it for a long time. But this makes me wonder again why 38 Special had two drummers.

As will be mentioned the Allman Bros did, and they often didn't play the same thing. Listen to the Allman's live with ear buds and you can hear what each drummer is doing. Mountain Jam they have a drum solo that's musical and interesting. Kind of common with southern bands it seems. The Outlaws and I think Charlie Daniels for a while had two for a while as well--and I know I'm forgetting someone else. I'd live to play in a band with two drummers--so long as they don't just play the same thing. With the Allman's Jaimoe and Trucks had different influences. Jaimoe was rock and Trucks was more Jazz.

 

[dagrev]

Yep! Steve Morse was kicking ass on guitar at 16 in Augusta.

Loved the Dregs.

 

[icefly]

Signed, Sealed, Delivered




Probably goes to another bass, and I´ll order other set of stainless Rotos for Tbird.

 

[GonePlaid]

As will be mentioned the Allman Bros did and they often played didn't generally play the same thing. Listen to the Allman's live with ear buds and you can hear what each drummer is doing. Mountain Jam they have a drum solo that's musical and interesting. Kind of common with southern bands it seems. The Outlaws and I think Charlie Daniels for a while had two for a while as well--and I know I'm forgetting someone else. I'd live to play in a band with two drummers--so long as they don't just play the same thing.

I played in a few different bands with multiple drummers: Miami Edison High School Marching Band(10), Combined Miami area H.S. Bands plus University of Miami Marching Band-Pro Bowl @ Original Orange Bowl Stadium ~1963(~115), All-Miami Youth Symphony(6 "percussionists"), USN Combined Marching Band-Rose Bowl Parade, 1/1/1967(8). Shall I go on? [No Thunderbird involved. One Martin Tenor Sax]

 

[Engle]

It was kind of a Southern rock thing started by the Allman Brothers Band who actually really benefited from them.

And I read Duane Allman got the idea from seeing James Brown.

 

[StephnG]

Loved the Dregs.

Yup me too!! I think they were one of THE BEST Ever! The elements they incorporated in their brand of "fusion" was second to none!
Albums like "Dregs Of the Earth" and "What If" are absolute masterpieces IMHO
Now that"DP" is pretty much done I was hoping Ole Steve would pull them back together and do a reunion!
I think the world can use some
"Fresh Dregs" right about now!
Andy West and Rod Morgenstein were/are one of THE Best Rhythm Sections on the Planet!!
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mLFyYpK-kz89Ye2zKW3RBjySLFh9StmhY

 

[bobyoung53]

It sounds good to me!

Thank you! I appreciate that.

 

[bobyoung53]

Do black VPs weigh more or less than white VPs and burst VPs?

Many people from TB say that Burst has more pigment than black and black has more pigment has than white so all things being equal burst weighs more than black and black weighs more than white.........well, that's what they're sayin'..........

 

[bobyoung53]

Ed King (later in Skynyrd) may have played some bass when with them--since he didn't mind switching to bass from guitar when needed. Just a guess and likely not a good one.

I've heard that before too now that you mention it.

 

[dagrev]

Signed, Sealed, Delivered




Probably goes to another bass, and I´ll order other set of stainless Rotos for Tbird.

Roto bass are nice strings. Their nickel plated steel without the silks. Same string according to someone from Rotosound that I once read. Roto NPS are often overlooked strings.

 

[dagrev]

And I read Duane Allman got the idea from seeing James Brown.

Interesting. I didn't know that. Thanks for adding to my knowledge!

 

[JIO]

I saw Nels Cline in 2009. First in a record shop (as a customer) and then on a Wilco gig. Was awesome to say the least.

Favourite guitarists? I could mention 50 or more but ten for now:

Ollie Halsall (Patto, Kevin Ayers, Boxer, Tempest)
Allan Holdsworth
Kim Mitchell (Max Webster)
John Martyn
Jamie West-Oram (The Fixx)
Robin Trower
David Gilmour
Buck Dharma
Zal Cleminson (SAHB)
Alex Lifeson

I saw/heard/spoke with Nels many times in the '90s-2000's (pre Wilco) here in SF with his trio, The Nels Cline Singers. (no singing!) Although, Nels tested his vocal chords for a special show honoring Jimi Hendrix. I'm sure it was fun, but he probably should stick to instrumentals!

great line-up

 

[dagrev]

Yup me too!! I think they were one of THE BEST Ever! The elements they incorporated in their brand of "fusion" was second to none!
Albums like "Dregs Of the Earth" and "What If" are absolute masterpieces IMHO
Now that"DP" is pretty much done I was hoping Ole Steve would pull them back together and do a reunion!
I think the world can use some
"Fresh Dregs" right about now!
Andy West and Rod Morgenstein were/are one of THE Best Rhythm Sections on the Planet!!
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mLFyYpK-kz89Ye2zKW3RBjySLFh9StmhY

No body did what they did as far as I know. They did "fusion" in a way that was interesting and entertaining, and not just for people who like to hear players put in odd parts that barely work just because they can. I had a number of their albums years ago. Saw them once. I believe they opened for Stevie Ray V. the first time I saw him. Maybe. Too many years and substances ago.

 

[TBird1958]

this guy just came up….
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I'll be there in less than a month..........I'll bring a nice short dress - you can take me for a ride

 

[JJR58]

Now that would be interesting, I've never done that but every time I hear the term "two bassists" I think of Strawberry Alarm Clock who were supposed to have had two bassists in the band although I only heard one but this one really had two bassists.

Herbie Flowers playing both upright and electric bass.



Herbie Flowers: The Story Behind Lou Reed’s “Walk on the Wild Side” Bass Line

Herbie is The Man!!!

 

[JIO]

this guy just came up….
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My brother owned one for a while - it was the green version w/black stripes.