Thunderbird Club

[WillyW]

Don't like frets but like bridge covers... Weird.

 

[RedVee]

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Fluffy slippers?

I thought he meant pomfrit

Wouldn't that be pomme frites? To go with:

I don't think he meant they were fish! View attachment 4795145 My good friend Stewart (being a Pom) from Blackpool England would always keep me updated on British slang.

For clarification - Pom or Pommie is Australian slang for an English immigrant. Modestly offensive. Perhaps wordicification (is that a new word?) of the abbreviation PoME - Prisoner of Mother England. I don't understand why they would make fun of the newly arrived criminals as all the Aussies got there on prison ships anyway...

Like all things here, it isn't always offensive. Often it is used in a friendly way. Considering (just about) all the early settlers and convicts were from the UK & Ireland themselves it seems odd they would pick on the new chums (another term used in the past chums or chooms).
But a bit later on the native born colonials were looked down upon by the UK born lot I guess it was a bit mean to start with, retaliation I guess.
POME has been discounted over the last 20 or more years. But the supposed real origin doesn't make that much sense to me…
Pomegranate!
I've heard 2 reasons / theories:
1. because as soon as the new arrivals get a bit of sun on them they go the colour of the pomegranate flesh or juice.
2. Rhyming Slang.
Immigrant = Pomegranate (or Pommy Grant).
Which then became Pommie or Pommy, then just Pom. Bit of a stretch but offer things have happened.
Originally the Rhyming Slang was Jimmy Grant for Immigrant. So they were Jimmy's. Co-existed with Pommy for a while but replaced completely now.

Not that I know of. I know nothing about Space Balls.

makes me think of this History of the World sketch.

 

[dagrev]

Well, that's a longer story. My son-in-law was born in Jerusalem and was raised in Hebron. Due to the difficulty in travel for Palestinians living in the West Bank, he spent a great deal of time in Amman. The company's primary factories are in Hebron and Amman. Each of the five brothers is charged with running the main company but also either expanding their product lines or geographic reach. My SIL decided that since most of what they produce is vegetarian, he would expand into the world's largest vegetarian market. So, he moved to Bangalore 5 years ago and built a 5 story factory there focused on the main product lines of hummus, pita, saj, samoon, falafel, baklava, and some condiment items like pickled vegetables. He opened a series of fast food restaurants to introduce the cuisine and also sells B2B to retail outlets.

Great story. I love it when someone does well and their hard work pays off. I hope for continued success...and Baklava for all!

 

[PillO]

Like all things here, it isn't always offensive. Often it is used in a friendly way.

Yes, that is why I say modestly offensive. Much like the way Aussies are all criminals...

POME has been discounted over the later 20 or more years. But the supposed real origin doesn't make that much sense to me…
Pomegranate! I've heard 2 reasons / theories:
1. because as soon as the new arrivals get a bit of sun on them they go the colour of the pomegranate flesh or juice.
2. Rhyming Slang.
Immigrant = Pomegranate (or Pommy Grant).
Which then became Pommie or Pommy, then just Pom. Bit of a stretch but offer things have happened.
Originally the Rhyming Slang was Jimmy Grant for Immigrant. So they were Jimmy's. Co-existed with Pommy for a while but replaced completely now.

I have heard those origins of POM/Pommie, but I think the Prisoner of Mother England makes the most sense. What would thieves and murderers know of pomegranates? Crooked bankers, solicitors and Lords sure, but they aren't getting sent to a penal colony (ahem).

Do Aussies have rhyming slang?

 

[RedVee]

Yes, that is why I say modestly offensive. Much like the way Aussies are all criminals...



I have heard those origins of POM/Pommie, but I think the Prisoner of Mother England makes the most sense. What would thieves and murderers know of pomegranates? Crooked bankers, solicitors and Lords sure, but they aren't getting sent to a penal colony (ahem).

Do Aussies have rhyming slang?

Hey since looking into the family tree I've found 2 Convicts (+ 1 that was a step father). 2 Irish Orphan girls that came via various schemes and on Mums side a few African & Madagascan slaves that (ahem) their French masters 'mixed with' in Mauritius.

They did get sent as well, for forgery and other 'white collar' crimes. No Lords or Ladies that I know of though. As I'm sure you know they weren't all violent criminals. Thieves were plentiful though. One of mine was sent for stealing paint brushes (in Manchester). The other was a Highwayman in Dublin. The step father (replaced the highwayman who died young unsurprisingly) got done for picking pockets in the well to do end of London.

Rhyming Slang? Yes we do! A lot of Cockneys amongst the convicts and their speech mixed in with the other accents to give us the Aussie accent and rhyming slang. I guess a lot is straight cockney expressions but a lot of local stuff as well.

You should take a Captain Cook at the subject me old China plate.

 

[RedVee]

Well, that's a longer story. My son-in-law was born in Jerusalem and was raised in Hebron. Due to the difficulty in travel for Palestinians living in the West Bank, he spent a great deal of time in Amman. The company's primary factories are in Hebron and Amman. Each of the five brothers is charged with running the main company but also either expanding their product lines or geographic reach. My SIL decided that since most of what they produce is vegetarian, he would expand into the world's largest vegetarian market. So, he moved to Bangalore 5 years ago and built a 5 story factory there focused on the main product lines of hummus, pita, saj, samoon, falafel, baklava, and some condiment items like pickled vegetables. He opened a series of fast food restaurants to introduce the cuisine and also sells B2B to retail outlets.

That makes great sense. Well done him.

Did you buy a container load of those pickholders?

Great story. I love it when someone does well and their hard work pays off. I hope for continued success...and Baklava for all!

Agree!

 

[icefly]

Did you buy a container load of those pickholders?

 

[PillO]

Hey since looking into the family tree I've found 2 Convicts (+ 1 that was a step father). 2 Irish Orphan girls that came via various schemes and on Mums side a few African & Madagascan slaves that (ahem) their French masters 'mixed with' in Mauritius.

They did get sent as well, for forgery and other 'white collar' crimes. No Lords or Ladies that I know of though. As I'm sure you know they weren't all violent criminals. Thieves were plentiful though. One of mine was sent for stealing paint brushes (in Manchester). The other was a Highwayman in Dublin. The step father (replaced the highwayman who died young unsurprisingly) got done for picking pockets in the well to do end of London.

Rhyming Slang? Yes we do! A lot of Cockneys amongst the convicts and their speech mixed in with the other accents to give us the Aussie accent and rhyming slang. I guess a lot is straight cockney expressions but a lot of local stuff as well.

You should take a Captain Cook at the subject me old China plate.

There is a branch of my family in Aus. They moved there in the late 60s after a criminal record was no longer required. Interesting that they were considering Canada and Aus. Aus won out as they offered $5 more in resettlement funds than Canada.

 

[Engle]

Is that a genuine Rickenbacker? Or a chinese copy?

It is a 70's Japanese copy. They are very close to the real thing, much more so than the Chinese copies.

 

[PillO]

They did get sent as well, for forgery and other 'white collar' crimes. No Lords or Ladies that I know of though.

I think that the bulk of the white collar criminals that were sent were "inconvenient" one way or another. Defrauded a Lord, member of parliament, or judge...

 

[dagrev]

I will be playing this evening. Drums, not bass, but it will be in front of people. So, I'm pretty happy.

Always good to hear.

Don't forget all your drum scales.

 

[RedVee]

It is a 70's Japanese copy. They are very close to the real thing, much more so than the Chinese copies.

There is a current thread by Gary Garry Beers (INXS) that I have read some of.
In it he speaks highly of his Japanese copy, I think he said it is a Greco. Which would make sense as their Thunderbirds are well regarded here.

 

[PaleAngel_90]

It is a 70's Japanese copy. They are very close to the real thing, much more so than the Chinese copies.

Must've been expensive as hell...

 

[dagrev]

Had my first ever jam session with people that gig. Drummer and two guitarists. Blues group with a little Johnny Cash. 2 hours straight definitely builds calluses.

Great news. Unless they told to not to come back.

Had that happen in my first year of playing. In my case, it was answering my question about leaving my amp there. "No, that's OK." It was well deserved. I wasn't ready.

 

[Stealth57]

Great news. Unless they told to not to come back.

Had that happen in my first year of playing. In my case, it was answering my question about leaving my amp there. "No, that's OK." It was well deserved. I wasn't ready.

Ouch. They have a studio that used to be an inlaw cottage. All I had to bring was my CP. They invited me back for next Saturday. I hear their normal bass player is out of town for a month. Hey, a month of real playing is more than I've had before, so taking whatever happens and enjoying it.

 

[dagrev]

Ouch. They have a studio that used to be an inlaw cottage. All I had to bring was my CP. They invited me back for next Saturday. I hear their normal bass player is out of town for a month. Hey, a month of real playing is more than I've had before, so taking whatever happens and enjoying it.

I consider myself fortunate. They lived same part of town but in a worse neighborhood than I did and were right next to the projects. They were older than I and more unsavory than my neighbors, I consider they did me a favor for not asking me to come back or killing me then and taking my stuff. So being bad was a true blessing.

 

[RedVee]

There is a branch of my family in Aus. They moved there in the late 60s after a criminal record was no longer required. Interesting that they were considering Canada and Aus. Aus won out as they offered $5 more in resettlement funds than Canada.

We have had great value from the "£10 Poms". It has been very successful for the country and I hope for the people involved.
I sit in with a seniors group for a thump around on ukuleles every couple of weeks. Last time out of the about 20 people there about a dozen still had their accent from all over the UK. A few of the older ladies sitting together there was English, Welsh and a Scot all sitting and laughing together. I had a coffee with them at the break and they sat there in the same order as in the uke room. Good fun group.

 

[Stealth57]

I consider myself fortunate. They lived same part of town but in a worse neighborhood than I did and were right next to the projects. They were older than I and more unsavory than my neighbors and consider they did me a favor for not asking me to come back or killing me then and taking my stuff. So being bad was a true blessing.

Then consider me double blessed

 

[JIO]

Fluffy slippers?



Originally the Rhyming Slang was Jimmy Grant for Immigrant. So they were Jimmy's. Co-existed with Pommy for a while but replaced completely now.
makes me think of this History of the World sketch.

That's a cockney carry-over correct?

 

[KaraQ]

Not really related to any of the topics at hand.....or Thunderbirds, even


.....although, birds are sort of involved......




Just wanted to vent? a bit, about some of the real turkeys I have to put up with at work