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Thunderbird Club

Just as a goofy side note - for whatever reason I can rarely ever pick out Robert Trujillo‘s bass lines in a Metallica mix. He’s usually buried so deep behind a wall of screaming guitar riffs that I wouldn’t even notice if his amp was turned off.

That’s not to take anything away from him, he’s a fantastic player with much more talent than his band let’s him show, he even plays Spanish guitar better than his guitarists do.

Point being, listening to most of his Metallica music, I couldn’t tell you if he was playing a stingray, Jazz or upright bass, much less the subtle nuances of one jazz pup vs another.

Isn't that pretty normal for Metallica bassists? Even Cliff, unless he was doing show-y, solo-y stuff got pretty buried under the guitars, imo.


I wrote this in another thread that some here may not go to, but I think it’s relevant to the quoted conversation so I copied it over here:

I’ve seen Metallica a lot in their early days. I saw them twice when Dave Mustaine was still in and before their first record came out. They were literally the first club shows I saw, I was 16/17 and I live very near SF. I was right in the middle of the early west coast metal scene. I feel lucky to have experienced that. However, Metallica is just not a bass friendly band. Not that many of the other bands of that type were, Slayer, Exodus, etc. but then there was Megadeth. There’s a band that respects how (I feel) bass can sound in these style bands.
 
The plexi lead vs bass we’re the same way but I can’t figure out which parts ‘bass’ify it
Dusty Hill was using Marshall tube amps, and might have been using power amps along with... But the only thing, really, that defines a bass amp is the wattage in the power section- because low freqs require power- and EQ centers.
If I had a Marshall tube amp I'd use it with a Poweramp. Marshall>Send>Poweramp>cab.
 
I’m using a 100w Ampeg V4 (not V4B) into a 4x12 sealed V4 cab loaded with Eminence BP 122 bass drivers tonight and there’s plenty of power there, but it’s no SVT. I’ve used this head with a sealed Ampeg B40 4x10 cab and it has worked well, sits in the mix with our down tuned heavy music really well, so I’m curious how the 4x12 will sit with two guitars and drums.
 
I’m using a 100w Ampeg V4 (not V4B) into a 4x12 sealed V4 cab loaded with Eminence BP 122 bass drivers tonight and there’s plenty of power there, but it’s no SVT. I’ve used this head with a sealed Ampeg B40 4x10 cab and it has worked well, sits in the mix with our down tuned heavy music really well, so I’m curious how the 4x12 will sit with two guitars and drums.
The V4B is just a V4 without the reverb, so I've been informed. With 12s I'm anticipating a good report!...
 
I wrote this in another thread that some here may not go to, but I think it’s relevant to the quoted conversation so I copied it over here:

I’ve seen Metallica a lot in their early days. I saw them twice when Dave Mustaine was still in and before their first record came out. They were literally the first club shows I saw, I was 16/17 and I live very near SF. I was right in the middle of the early west coast metal scene. I feel lucky to have experienced that. However, Metallica is just not a bass friendly band. Not that many of the other bands of that type were, Slayer, Exodus, etc. but then there was Megadeth. There’s a band that respects how (I feel) bass can sound in these style bands.

I like how the bass fits with this -



 
The plexi lead vs bass we’re the same way but I can’t figure out which parts ‘bass’ify it


It's only a few resistors and caps in both channels of the preamp. I just downloaded both schematics, compared them and looked for the differences, any good tech should be able to switch it for you though.
 
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Dusty Hill was using Marshall tube amps, and might have been using power amps along with... But the only thing, really, that defines a bass amp is the wattage in the power section- because low freqs require power- and EQ centers.
If I had a Marshall tube amp I'd use it with a Poweramp. Marshall>Send>Poweramp>cab.


You wouldn't need it with a Major, they're a very loud 200 watts. A Marshall lead amp in comparison with a Marshall bass amp sounds thinner with a bass, it's the way the preamps are designed.
 
Bon show Chuckie !
mercį mon amie!!!
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deuxieme round….:thumbsup::hyper:
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