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#239,681
PillO said:
Unlike pineapple, watermelon belongs on the head, not on pizza or in curry.

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Ahhh, yes. This point i can't argue.
 
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JJR58 said:
The GK is like the Mesa M6, you gotta open it up for it's real umph.
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See, that's the thing, kind of a Catch-22. If I'm playing a large venue with good FOH like those shots I just posted, the soundman doesn't really need or want me to be all that loud because it spoils the mix out front - Thus, I can't turn the GK up enough to really get it to sound good. Basically the same applies at the smaller venues we play that have FOH.
The Trace Elliott has great tone when I use it upstairs in the small extra bedroom I use for solo practice and when I have set up in the downstairs rehearsal space ( where you'd sleep if you came to visit) it's got more than enough horses to keep up with the band, is 250 watts considered to be a small amp?
 
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TBird1958 said:
See, that's the thing, kind of a Catch-22. If I'm playing a large venue with good FOH like those shots I just posted, the soundman doesn't really need or want me to be all that loud because it spoils the mix out front - Thus, I can't turn the GK up enough to really get it to sound good. Basically the same applies at the smaller venues we play that have FOH.
The Trace Elliott has great tone when I use it upstairs in the small extra bedroom I use for solo practice and when I have set up in the downstairs rehearsal space ( where you'd sleep if you came to visit) it's got more than enough horses to keep up with the band, is 250 watts considered to be a small amp?
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250 is plenty.
But you mentioned the basic variables that come into play in a live situation.
I couldn't have explained it any better.

Visit?, more like a gentle moving in hopefully with no one really noticing. :rolleyes:
 
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TBird1958 said:
See, that's the thing, kind of a Catch-22. If I'm playing a large venue with good FOH like those shots I just posted, the soundman doesn't really need or want me to be all that loud because it spoils the mix out front - Thus, I can't turn the GK up enough to really get it to sound good. Basically the same applies at the smaller venues we play that have FOH.
The Trace Elliott has great tone when I use it upstairs in the small extra bedroom I use for solo practice and when I have set up in the downstairs rehearsal space ( where you'd sleep if you came to visit) it's got more than enough horses to keep up with the band, is 250 watts considered to be a small amp?
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@Chucky Stiletti tube watts or SS watts??

In my mind, 250W is plenty. I find my YBA 100 to be stupid loud at half volume and ridiculously stupid loud at full volume. At half it is shake the house loud and at full it is shake the concrete basement floor loud.*

If you have FoH and IEMs, do you even need an amp on stage? I see so many bands now go ampless these days.



* Might also be commentary on 1970 building standards.
 
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bobyoung53 said:
Psychoanalysis lost popularity in big part because insurance companies didn't want to pay for 4 or 5 sessions a week. I think it really hurt Freud when Jung broke away.
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No doubt, insurance was a part. I think there were a number of factors.
True.

If more people would just play Thunderbirds. Look at us. None of us need psychological help.


OK, maybe that's not a real strong point.:laugh:
 
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Gaolee said:
THE drummer, so far as I'm concerned. Joseph "Zigaboo" Modaliste.


He makes it look really easy, but it's a little like the Purdy Shuffle on steroids. I can't do a good Purdy Shuffle, either. So there's that.
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George Porter rockin' an '80s G&L El Toro bass :thumbsup: you don't see them very often. (the white one) I really dig the Interceptor - and those are even more rare.

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Some came in cool two-tone finishes -
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TBird1958 said:
See, that's the thing, kind of a Catch-22. If I'm playing a large venue with good FOH like those shots I just posted, the soundman doesn't really need or want me to be all that loud because it spoils the mix out front - Thus, I can't turn the GK up enough to really get it to sound good. Basically the same applies at the smaller venues we play that have FOH.
The Trace Elliott has great tone when I use it upstairs in the small extra bedroom I use for solo practice and when I have set up in the downstairs rehearsal space ( where you'd sleep if you came to visit) it's got more than enough horses to keep up with the band, is 250 watts considered to be a small amp?
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250w (FET) is perfect for a FOH situation as you can push them w/o being that loud. That's why low wattage tube amps are also good. My Ampeg 30w B15N d.i.'d through the FOH is bass nirvana. It's also why guitarists like very low watt amps.

However, for small clubs w/o FOH, my 550 twin-tube pre Ashdown & 1x15 Ampeg cab is all I need.

Someone we all know took this pic at a show at Winters'...
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TBird1958 said:
I got this one...........
Trace Elliot GP7SM 250 Rack Head w/Case | Reverb

I really like it because even at moderate volume it sounds fantastic, there's a really nice lo-mid thump that I can't get with the GK until I'm at an insane volume
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TBird1958 said:
See, that's the thing, kind of a Catch-22. If I'm playing a large venue with good FOH like those shots I just posted, the soundman doesn't really need or want me to be all that loud because it spoils the mix out front - Thus, I can't turn the GK up enough to really get it to sound good. Basically the same applies at the smaller venues we play that have FOH.
The Trace Elliott has great tone when I use it upstairs in the small extra bedroom I use for solo practice and when I have set up in the downstairs rehearsal space ( where you'd sleep if you came to visit) it's got more than enough horses to keep up with the band, is 250 watts considered to be a small amp?
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250 watts from Trace are LOUD!!! My friend/tech is a HUGE Trace devotee and he says that 250 old school trace watts is plenty for most bassists in most situations that we would encounter. He especially likes the models with the 12 band EQ. I was eyeballing a 400 watt model a couple weeks ago and he said it was total overkill, but that I should buy it :cool:
I hesitated and missed out. But it worked out okay because I bought the Greco and that makes me quite happy :cool::bassist::bassist::bassist:
 
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TBird1958 said:
See, that's the thing, kind of a Catch-22. If I'm playing a large venue with good FOH like those shots I just posted, the soundman doesn't really need or want me to be all that loud because it spoils the mix out front - Thus, I can't turn the GK up enough to really get it to sound good. Basically the same applies at the smaller venues we play that have FOH.
The Trace Elliott has great tone when I use it upstairs in the small extra bedroom I use for solo practice and when I have set up in the downstairs rehearsal space ( where you'd sleep if you came to visit) it's got more than enough horses to keep up with the band, is 250 watts considered to be a small amp?
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An ACC 360 stack has a 200 watt power section. It does OK. If you want guts liquefying mids, it certainly does that. I have never actually turned mine up very far. I hate to think what happens with the volume at noon or so. Beyond that, it just makes dirt, or so I'm told. I like lots of clean headroom. Keep it at a "low" volume and it's plenty loud for any situation I have every played, FOH or no FOH.
 
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