Thunderbird Club

[Count Bassie]

See, that's the thing, kind of a Catch-22. If I'm playing a large venue with good FOH like those shots I just posted, the soundman doesn't really need or want me to be all that loud because it spoils the mix out front - Thus, I can't turn the GK up enough to really get it to sound good. Basically the same applies at the smaller venues we play that have FOH.
The Trace Elliott has great tone when I use it upstairs in the small extra bedroom I use for solo practice and when I have set up in the downstairs rehearsal space ( where you'd sleep if you came to visit) it's got more than enough horses to keep up with the band, is 250 watts considered to be a small amp?

250 watts, according to the old Trace Elliott ethic, is enough to be present on any stage, in any venue, long as you have a proper speaker array. You can probably play anywhere with that head. And you don't have to reach a particular dB level to get what it's got sonically.
I've still got an old MK-IV that needs a plywood sleeve... Getting over to my friend's panel saw this week for that...

 

[MCF]

@MCF What area do you live in again?

I’ll PM the details re the two places probably tomorrow or Wednesday. It looks like I have some catching up to do.

 

[bobyoung53]

As I recall, he said something about cigars...

I think he was having a bad day that day.

 

[bobyoung53]

THE drummer, so far as I'm concerned. Joseph "Zigaboo" Modaliste.


He makes it look really easy, but it's a little like the Purdy Shuffle on steroids. I can't do a good Purdy Shuffle, either. So there's that.

None of their stuff is easy.

 

[bobyoung53]

An ACC 360 stack has a 200 watt power section. It does OK. If you want guts liquefying mids, it certainly does that. I have never actually turned mine up very far. I hate to think what happens with the volume at noon or so. Beyond that, it just makes dirt, or so I'm told. I like lots of clean headroom. Keep it at a "low" volume and it's plenty loud for any situation I have every played, FOH or no FOH.

I thought this guy got a great sound out of one of those. Jim Leverton, also some great guitar playing and singing from Steve Marriott.

1985

 

[dagrev]

George Porter rockin' an '80s G&L El Toro bass you don't see them very often. (the white one) I really dig the Interceptor - and those are even more rare.

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Some came in cool two-tone finishes -
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[dagrev]

250 watts from Trace are LOUD!!! My friend/tech is a HUGE Trace devotee and he says that 250 old school trace watts is plenty for most bassists in most situations that we would encounter. He especially likes the models with the 12 band EQ. I was eyeballing a 400 watt model a couple weeks ago and he said it was total overkill, but that I should buy it
I hesitated and missed out. But it worked out okay because I bought the Greco and that makes me quite happy

So we have SS and tube watts, but now old school watts to factor in as well?

 

[dagrev]

@KaraQ might need to add this to the collection:

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Great catch! Yes, she should.

 

[Gaolee]

I thought this guy got a great sound out of one of those. Jim Leverton, also some great guitar playing and singing from Steve Marriott.

1985

No argument from me that a 360 stack sounds great used right.

 

[PillO]

Dammit, I've misplaced my melon baller

I don't need a special tool to ball melons.

We might not be talking about the same thing...

 

[PillO]

I think you may be onto on something there.

FTFY

 

[GonePlaid]

Yeah, that might had a little something to do with it. Don't know about the style of it, but reading him and about him would make most people not leave a loved one with him. Some of his theories may still stand with some (and not so much with others), but the dude was off. Not being a hard science as Thunderbirdology, some theories are tricky to prove/falsify and generally not accepted by all. But here there is 100% consensus that Thunderbirds are beneficial to human flourishing. No competing and contrary schools of thought there.

Yeah! Tell that to the GP(not me, of course).

 

[PillO]

I think he was having a bad day that day.

I think psychiatrists have bad days every day. Or at least the one I know who deals with the criminally insane certainly does.

 

[PillO]

So we have SS and tube watts, but now old school watts to factor in as well?

Old school tube watts and old school SS watts...

 

[GonePlaid]

Have you ever read any Freud?

I'm a-freud I haven't.

 

[PillO]

I'm a-freud I haven't.

 

[Stealth57]

I think psychiatrists have bad days every day. Or at least the one I know who deals with the criminally insane certainly does.

My daughter deals with them everyday in the CA prison system. She loves it. Not sure who’s crazier.

 

[BklynKen]

So we have SS and tube watts, but now old school watts to factor in as well?

And then there are GK watts.

I've never played through a Trace Elliot, but now I'm intrigued.

 

[BklynKen]

I don't need a special tool to ball melons.

Ahem! Just back and you're racking them up. Well done indeed.

 

[JIO]

So we have SS and tube watts, but now old school watts to factor in as well?

It's like the difference between 'loud', and "old school loud", you know.., to 11 - it's 1 louder, that extra push over the cliff.