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Thunderbird Club

Interesting concept. A drummer friend sent it wondering if it's viable. May not fit many people's needs, but it would certainly be something some might want. Heck, if you can make a classical guitar out of Lucite, why would this not be a good idea! There are downsides, but I think it's a clever idea. Possibly done before.

Variation on other modular systems. I could see some using it. It seems like the modules themselves would be expensive. For example, a tapped DiCola pickup module, a vintage reissue module, and a modern Tbird Plus module for a Thunderbird would be interesting. But I’d probably rather just have the three separate basses I think.
 
Thanks. I played my Peavey Foundation through the B-15 last night and decided that just isn't the right combination. That bass sounds much better through either of my Sunn rigs.
On the Foundation, unless the mod you did to it changed the way it works, put it in humbucking mode by dimming both volume knobs and see if that makes a difference.
 
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I don't know if it's absolutely true, but I think Gibson and Fender were competing with each other back then by sponsoring bands and having them play instruments they make. You don't see an all Gibson band or all Fender band near as much any more. It's amusing to see videos, which were movies I guess, of bands playing the exact same song but with different instruments depending on whether Gibson or Fender was part of their promotion package.
That was definitely true for the Four Seasons and Gibson. And Mosrite with the Ventures for a few years.
 
I don't know if it's absolutely true, but I think Gibson and Fender were competing with each other back then by sponsoring bands and having them play instruments they make. You don't see an all Gibson band or all Fender band near as much any more. It's amusing to see videos, which were movies I guess, of bands playing the exact same song but with different instruments depending on whether Gibson or Fender was part of their promotion package.
Most definitely went on. The Beatles were sent gear from Fender leading to Paul briefly using a lefty J in the later '60s for recording. There was also George Harrison's rosewood Tele seen being played on the "Get Back" roof performance made by Phil Kubicki when he was employed at Fender under Roger Rossmeisl. There's a thick Beatles gear book that lists all the gear they used and when. George is pictured playing a Burns bass. Gibson & Epi guitars appeared but no Thunderbirds were involved...

The Honeycombs used all Burns guitars-

 
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SCORE!!!
The 1966 Ampeg B-18N I purchased on line just arrived yesterday afternoon. It’s in much better shape than I expected and plays really really nice. Sounds great with my Greco Tbirds and a new bass I picked up today (more on that one later).
Some pics…
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Some tube shots, looks like RCA and Ampeg tubes…
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Even had the original amp candy with it…
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Variation on other modular systems. I could see some using it. It seems like the modules themselves would be expensive. For example, a tapped DiCola pickup module, a vintage reissue module, and a modern Tbird Plus module for a Thunderbird would be interesting. But I’d probably rather just have the three separate basses I think.
It's the same with the variety of fret-less to fretted bass designs over the years. Much fussing over instead of simply having one of each.
 
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SCORE!!!
The 1966 Ampeg B-18N I purchased on line just arrived yesterday afternoon. It’s in much better shape than I expected and plays really really nice. Sounds great with my Greco Tbirds and a new bass I picked up today (more on that one later).
Some pics…
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Some tube shots, looks like RCA and Ampeg tubes…
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Even had the original amp candy with it…
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It looks practically new.
 
SCORE!!!
The 1966 Ampeg B-18N I purchased on line just arrived yesterday afternoon. It’s in much better shape than I expected and plays really really nice. Sounds great with my Greco Tbirds and a new bass I picked up today (more on that one later).
Some pics…
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Some tube shots, looks like RCA and Ampeg tubes…
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Even had the original amp candy with it…
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Congrats! - you should post on the Ampeg Portaflex thread -
 
Looks like my amp but different tubes. More than 25W?
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There were two 6L6GC power tubes in my 1966 Fender Bassman and it put out 50-watts rms. I'd normally "expect" 25-watts of power from each 6L6GC tube unless the designer wired it differently. so two of those would normally be 50-watts and 4 of them for 100-watts. So my guess would be 50-watts. Ampeg could certainly be different than that though.
 
It looks practically new.
And plays that way as well.

Absolutely zero hiss with the instrument unplugged and volume dimed. Zero crackle in any pot being rotated. Tolex is only slightly worn with one cigarette butt burn a few scuffs but no tears or peeling. The knobs are all pristine, the chrome is only very slightly pitted. The castors look brand new, the power cord has been updated to a three prong with the original cord kept along with the amp candy. The speaker looks to be original and in excellent condition. Only a minor poke in the grill cloth. The amp warms up quick and turns off quietly (no pops or bangs on any switch) and after several hours of hard high volume use was only slightly warm to the touch. Even all the handles look clean and well taken care of. I haven’t opened up the amp yet to see what the wiring looks like but as well as it plays I suspect all is good there too. All in all, I’m very pleased with the purchase, especially at the $1700 delivered price.

About the only condition question I have is on the two RCA 7027A tubes. They both have a black spot on the side which I assume is there by design as a heat shield or something, but I suppose they could be burn marks from over heating. Maybe @Chucky Stiletti can chime in on that. Here’s a pic of those tubes…
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There were two 6L6GC power tubes in my 1966 Fender Bassman and it put out 50-watts rms. I'd normally "expect" 25-watts of power from each 6L6GC tube unless the designer wired it differently. so two of those would normally be 50-watts and 4 of them for 100-watts. So my guess would be 50-watts. Ampeg could certainly be different than that though.
My B-15NC is 25W.
 
Looks like my amp but different tubes. More than 25W?
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Dave, don’t quote me (I’m no amp expert) but IIRC the B18 had about twice the wattage rating of the B15. So somewhere around 50/60watts I think. It gets PLENTY loud in my home setting and I suspect would even handle a medium size bar or small outdoor gig.
 
And plays that way as well.

Absolutely zero hiss with the instrument unplugged and volume dimed. Zero crackle in any pot being rotated. Tolex is only slightly worn with one cigarette butt burn a few scuffs but no tears or peeling. The knobs are all pristine, the chrome is only very slightly pitted. The castors look brand new, the power cord has been updated to a three prong with the original cord kept along with the amp candy. The speaker looks to be original and in excellent condition. Only a minor poke in the grill cloth. The amp warms up quick and turns off quietly (no pops or bangs on any switch) and after several hours of hard high volume use was only slightly warm to the touch. Even all the handles look clean and well taken care of. I haven’t opened up the amp yet to see what the wiring looks like but as well as it plays I suspect all is good there too. All in all, I’m very pleased with the purchase, especially at the $1700 delivered price.

About the only condition question I have is on the two RCA 7027A tubes. They both have a black spot on the side which I assume is there by design as a heat shield or something, but I suppose they could be burn marks from over heating. Maybe @Chucky Stiletti can chime in on that. Here’s a pic of those tubes…
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those are called “Getter” flashes…..when they are done exhausting the glass envelope with ambient gas (air) they momentarily (seconds) burn thoriated tungsten (by impressing a voltage on the ring in the below pic) which will trap whatever oxidizing (oxygen) particles are left in the glass case after the vacuum pump onto the glass. The tighter the vacuum the more rugged the structure and hence higher break up conditions…..euro tubes are reputed to have softer vacuum and are well suited for guitar amps……getter flashes can be seen in different parts of the glass case, manufacturer and tube type…..7027s typically have them on the sides and (as can be clearly seen on both, your and my pics) on top…,,
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That sounded fantastic through my Bose speakers in my office (not so much on the Macbook Pro). But through real speakers....Wow! Big, but tight and punchy. Don't post any more clips. That could cause me to wondering which could lead to money loss.
You do realize this group is sponsored by the Bass Gear Sales Improvement Association?