Thunderbird Club

[dagrev]

can't even see the Transamerica building anymore.......crazy...
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But where is the building "Ironside" worked in? That's the important building.

 

[dagrev]

I would much rather hear what she thinks.

Agree.

 

[dagrev]

Cool video. I especially appreciate the consistent playing without the showing off so prevalent in many videos.

Yes. Well done. And no odd bass only 13 people have have heard of and of that group only 5 know what they sound like.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Seattle is spectacular today as well, we should have about a week of really nice weather - finally spring.

Once a year The Museum of Flight turns into a very cool dance club - about 1500 folks last night, we had a fun time!

I really want to party under a Blackbird.

 

[Gaolee]

It was beautiful all day, and I was inside doing rescue diver training stuff. It will probably snow the next two Saturdays when we do the open water portion.

 

[RedVee]

Thanks. I knew a guy who used them on his acoustic, but I don't think I ever played (poorly) his guitar. Interesting enough I might have to try some before long to satisfy my curiosity. Kind of pricey if the don't sound good. Good being subjective. I know many seem to like them because of their longevity. As long as they retain their mids and lows don't sound flubby, I don't care if they maintain their brightness. Shoot, even my Rotos don't sound like most would think for SS 66s--meaning bright, clanky or whatever term one chooses. I like them on some things because they are punchy and havve good lows, not becuse they are bright.

They are the standard string on my Maton acoustic. Which was great for me as I had tried them on my teachers guitar and liked them enough to ask what they were.
Wasted on me, but hey I can still like them!

 

[BuddhaFingas]

Sorted out my screw lengths and solved the strap butyon dilemma by redrilling it to 5mm.

Neck attachment is four fine-pitch M5 machine screws into countersunk 12mm long steel inserts: "Rigid" is understatement.

Hung it on the wall for size comparison... gonna be a big girl.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

I’m convinced Mt Joy was listening to the Allman Brothers’ Blue Sky when they wrote Astrovan. Totally digging it as this month’s favorite jam song. Channeling Berry, Duane, and Dickie as I play. Not well, but I got the vibe. Blue Sky, Red Greco.

 

[BuddhaFingas]

Adding a detail to my Bach. The 60's NRs have this angle at the tip of the headstock.
Do the NR reissues have it?
It's there on my 75 Marauder.
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I've been replanning my kit headstock shape to eliminate that counterslope, as mine's supposed to be a "Reverse" not a "NR" (lower horn longer on the body, keys are on the "hook side," which faces upwards... which is a "not reversed" headstock on a "Reversed" bass, to me - don't 'reversed' in-line headstocks have keys on the BOTTOM of the headstock? I know Fenders do... (Head asplodes).

But now I'm torn, seeing the effort you are putting into adding it.

You'd mentioned before some NRs had it - did any Reverse (body) Tbird models ever have it?

To my inexperienced eye, it looked like a CNC error, as it exactly counters the headstock leanback -- like the profile was routed normal to the fretboard, rather than normal to the headstock face.

None of the other leanback instruments I have, or have seen, are cut that way. It must be a pretty rare feature.

So I was intending on reshaping the headstock to eliminate it.

But now... Argh.

 

[Count Bassie]

Hey all, pardon this sidebar... I run a sale/swap group on Facebook, and it's generally a pretty cool experience. We only do private dealing, no commercial interests, repairs, promotions of any kind at all. Not even art gigs.
But we've seen some Chibsons, other forgeries with popular headstocks, and the other admin due the group is unhappy about it. The illegality of it has made him uncomfortable and he wants to make it taboo.
There's a pretty good cross-section of folks here, and I wonder if anyone here has an opinion?
I just think they're ubiquitous, and already on the market. We're a private used instrument group. I dislike the sleazy venture, but there are plenty of even horrifying business practices that we take first granted every day... Just putting it in the table.
Thanks for reading.

 

[BuddhaFingas]

None of the other leanback instruments I have, or have seen, are cut that way. It must be a pretty rare feature.

In searching last night, I found one picture of an ESP LTD MH-400 guitar that had a similar bevel on a leanback headstock.

Really rare, apparently. No idea why it showed up on this kit.

 

[dagrev]

I'm convinced Mt Joy was listening to the Allman Brothers' Blue Sky when they wrote Astrovan. Totally digging it as this month's favorite jam song. Channeling Berry, Duane, and Dickie as I play. Not well, but I got the vibe. Blue Sky, Red Greco.

Love that song. Can't not post it after you mentioned it. Can't count the times I happened to listening to this during a beautiful sunny morning. Perfect match. The song just oozes new morning freedom to me.

 

[Engle]

I've been replanning my kit headstock shape to eliminate that counterslope, as mine's supposed to be a "Reverse" not a "NR" (lower horn longer on the body, keys are on the "hook side," which faces upwards... which is a "not reversed" headstock on a "Reversed" bass, to me - don't 'reversed' in-line headstocks have keys on the BOTTOM of the headstock? I know Fenders do... (Head asplodes).

But now I'm torn, seeing the effort you are putting into adding it.

You'd mentioned before some NRs had it - did any Reverse (body) Tbird models ever have it?

To my inexperienced eye, it looked like a CNC error, as it exactly counters the headstock leanback -- like the profile was routed normal to the fretboard, rather than normal to the headstock face.

None of the other leanback instruments I have, or have seen, are cut that way. It must be a pretty rare feature.

So I was intending on reshaping the headstock to eliminate it.

But now... Argh.

Reverse Tbirds/Fbirds and Gibsons with the open book headstock have the end of the headstock 90 degrees to the headstock itself.

 

[Engle]

In searching last night, I found one picture of an ESP LTD MH-400 guitar that had a similar bevel on a leanback headstock.

Really rare, apparently. No idea why it showed up on this kit.

I'd say it's because they cut the whole neck outline in one operation.

 

[Engle]

Hey all, pardon this sidebar... I run a sale/swap group on Facebook, and it's generally a pretty cool experience. We only do private dealing, no commercial interests, repairs, promotions of any kind at all. Not even art gigs.
But we've seen some Chibsons, other forgeries with popular headstocks, and the other admin due the group is unhappy about it. The illegality of it has made him uncomfortable and he wants to make it taboo.
There's a pretty good cross-section of folks here, and I wonder if anyone here has an opinion?
I just think they're ubiquitous, and already on the market. We're a private used instrument group. I dislike the sleazy venture, but there are plenty of even horrifying business practices that we take first granted every day... Just putting it in the table.
Thanks for reading.

I don't like putting a brand name on a copy. I made a Gibson TRC for my Orville, put it on and immediately removed it.
IMO as long as nobody is being deceived, I'm OK with a copy. But there's a difference between a copy and a forgery.

 

[Engle]

Nope.
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Thanks, that's what I thought.

 

[Engle]

Nice touch!

Thanks, I noticed that detail so I thought I may as well copy it while I was at a stage where I could.

 

[Haji]

Hey all, pardon this sidebar... I run a sale/swap group on Facebook, and it's generally a pretty cool experience. We only do private dealing, no commercial interests, repairs, promotions of any kind at all. Not even art gigs.
But we've seen some Chibsons, other forgeries with popular headstocks, and the other admin due the group is unhappy about it. The illegality of it has made him uncomfortable and he wants to make it taboo.
There's a pretty good cross-section of folks here, and I wonder if anyone here has an opinion?
I just think they're ubiquitous, and already on the market. We're a private used instrument group. I dislike the sleazy venture, but there are plenty of even horrifying business practices that we take first granted every day... Just putting it in the table.
Thanks for reading.

The slippery slope is the risk of a counterfeit being passed off as real. Even in a group where people can probably tell the differences, it only takes one inexperienced buyer to wreck it for everybody, and for good reason. If it were me, I'd disallow the selling of knock offs.

 

[MCF]

I don't like putting a brand name on a copy. I made a Gibson TRC for my Orville, put it on and immediately removed it.
IMO as long as nobody is being deceived, I'm OK with a copy. But there's a difference between a copy and a forgery.

I draw the line at forgeries passed off as the real thing. I’m really not into copies myself, but who am I to tell others what to play.

Some may argue that the BaCHs that I like so much are copies. They sort of were, I guess, of a Thunderbird that Gibson hadn’t made in forty years. Those behind that project weren’t trying to pass them off as a Gibson. They were only trying to meet a pent up demand for a type of Thunderbird players yearned for at an affordable price.

 

[MCF]

The slippery slope is the risk of a counterfeit being passed off as real. Even in a group where people can probably tell the differences, it only takes one inexperienced buyer to wreck it for everybody, and for good reason. If it were me, I'd disallow the selling of knock offs.

You make a good point Haji.