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Thunderbird Club

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So I have one of the Gibson 2013 EB basses, and I could never get it setup well enough to really like it, always with the annoying zingy-buzz with newish rounds, even with high action.

Took out the DeColas (with the super strong magnetic pull) and put in a set of TB+ that I had from my ‘97 ‘bird (actually just the bridge, the neck was done when I bought the bass, so the neck TB+ is a new Gibson “Modern”).

Now this is a fantastic player without the zingy fret buzz.

I have finally determined that I can’t have pickups with strong “pull”, it just creates a kind of fret buzz I hate. All of the aftermarket/boutique vintage style T-Bird pickups I have don’t have a strong pull, and the only set I tried that did, the Dunable D-Birds, caused this same grief my ‘99 ‘bird. Once I switched out those for the Gemini UK Devastators, problem gone.

This same issue is presenting itself on my Greco, but I have to keep those in it, because they do sound pretty sweet. The only solution is to bury the pickups really far from the strings. Which creates an interesting sound itself.
 
So I have one of the Gibson 2013 EB basses, and I could never get it setup well enough to really like it, always with the annoying zingy-buzz with newish rounds, even with high action.

Took out the DeColas (with the super strong magnetic pull) and put in a set of TB+ that I had from my ‘97 ‘bird (actually just the bridge, the neck was done when I bought the bass, so the neck TB+ is a new Gibson “Modern”).

Now this is a fantastic player without the zingy fret buzz.

I have finally determined that I can’t have pickups with strong “pull”, it just creates a kind of fret buzz I hate. All of the aftermarket/boutique vintage style T-Bird pickups I have don’t have a strong pull, and the only set I tried that did, the Dunable D-Birds, caused this same grief my ‘99 ‘bird. Once I switched out those for the Gemini UK Devastators, problem gone.

This same issue is presenting itself on my Greco, but I have to keep those in it, because they do sound pretty sweet. The only solution is to bury the pickups really far from the strings. Which creates an interesting sound itself.

My Greco pickup, cranked down. It's hot, loud, unruly.

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Used the Fender Hotrod Pbass today with Roto flats.
Ashdown for most of the run through and worked on EQ. It sounded good, but not as good as the Ampeg tubes. Some basses just sound better with the Ampeg and others the ABM.

I'm trying to get the ABM to get a good sounding with the basses that like the Ampeg, but so far some basses just ask for the tubes I guess. I would be willing to consider getting rid of the Ampeg if the ABM would work magic across all the basses, but for some the Ampeg just has something I haven't replicated, so far anyway. The ABM is so versatile I think is can, or can get really close, I just haven't figured it out yet. I like that I can use it with any bass and it will sound really good, but knowing there is something a tad even better keeps me hanging on to that head.


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Some basses just sound better with the Ampeg and others the ABM.

As I play with my Ashdown, I can say, IMO, it really passes the sound of the given bass through. The GK 212 cab looks to be a great complement, very big sounding. I think my biggest fight will be quickly adjusting to a room. Will need to wrangle the mid-lows when I start pushing the power up.

I may even need to get the GK 16ohm drivers and convert this cab to 8 ohm, so the Ashdown will run at 300w.

I’m seeing a big difference between Class D and Class A/B. The Orange TB500 wishes it could get this loud.
 
Used the Fender Hotrod Pbass today with Roto flats.
Ashdown for most of the run through and worked on EQ. It sounded good, but not as good as the Ampeg tubes. Some basses just sound better with the Ampeg and others the ABM.

I'm trying to get the ABM to get a good sounding with the basses that like the Ampeg, but so far some basses just ask for the tubes I guess. I would be willing to consider getting rid of the Ampeg if the ABM would work magic across all the basses, but for some the Ampeg just has something I haven't replicated, so far anyway. The ABM is so versatile I think is can, or can get really close, I just haven't figured it out yet. I like that I can use it with any bass and it will sound really good, but knowing there is something a tad even better keeps me hanging on to that head.


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Ashdown will never be Ampeg, and vice versa.
Two different beasts altogether.

I never get an amp with any intention to try and cop another amps tone.

I’ll have two different flavors for sure with the Quilter and the Ashdown.
I will use them for what they do as they are.
 
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As I play with my Ashdown, I can say, IMO, it really passes the sound of the given bass through. The GK 212 cab looks to be a great complement, very big sounding. I think my biggest fight will be quickly adjusting to a room. Will need to wrangle the mid-lows when I start pushing the power up.

I may even need to get the GK 16ohm drivers and convert this cab to 8 ohm, so the Ashdown will run at 300w.

I’m seeing a big difference between Class D and Class A/B. The Orange TB500 wishes it could get this loud.
My Class D Ashdown RM 300 sounds good and I would gig with it, but it didn't have the heft (as they say) as the ABM.
 
Ashdown will never be Ampeg, and vice versa.
Two different beasts altogether.

I never get an amp with any intention to try and cop another amps tone.

I’ll have to different flavors for sure with the Quilter and the Ashdown.
I will use them for what they do as they are.
Yes, good reminder. Each does their own thing.
 
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I think you posted an image of a similar wiring schematic:

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This comes from a file I have with a couple hundred .pdf pages of bass schematics, but mines in German. Do you know if there is an English version and if so do you have a link where I can D/L it?
Nope: I couldn’t find anything other than what I posted.

With the parts list, and the gut shots was how I completed the task.
 
So I have one of the Gibson 2013 EB basses, and I could never get it setup well enough to really like it, always with the annoying zingy-buzz with newish rounds, even with high action.

Took out the DeColas (with the super strong magnetic pull) and put in a set of TB+ that I had from my ‘97 ‘bird (actually just the bridge, the neck was done when I bought the bass, so the neck TB+ is a new Gibson “Modern”).

Now this is a fantastic player without the zingy fret buzz.

I have finally determined that I can’t have pickups with strong “pull”, it just creates a kind of fret buzz I hate. All of the aftermarket/boutique vintage style T-Bird pickups I have don’t have a strong pull, and the only set I tried that did, the Dunable D-Birds, caused this same grief my ‘99 ‘bird. Once I switched out those for the Gemini UK Devastators, problem gone.

This same issue is presenting itself on my Greco, but I have to keep those in it, because they do sound pretty sweet. The only solution is to bury the pickups really far from the strings. Which creates an interesting sound itself.
Interesting that the pickup would affect the sound of the fret buzz. Glad you got it figured out!
I dropped down the G pole piece on my Ripper's bridge pickup (SD repro) the other day because I was getting a bit of chorusy buzz around the octave.
How is your Les Paul Tribute? That should also be a Decola.
 
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