Thunderbird Club

[MCF]

And do tariffs apply?

Funny, looked this up earlier when V posted that blue Reverse.

Per AI:

“Yes, U.S. tariffs generally apply to used guitars imported from Japan, as the $800 de minimis exemption was eliminated for shipments from Japan starting September 1, 2025, making all shipments potentially subject to import duties and fees. The duty rate will be based on the guitar's declared value, and antique instruments over 100 years old are an exception.

Here's what you need to know:
De Minimis Exemption is Gone: The previous rule allowing shipments under $800 to avoid tariffs from Japan has been terminated as of September 1, 2025.
Tariffs Apply: You will likely face import duties based on a 24% tariff rate applied to the guitar's declared value.
Antique Exception: Antique instruments that are over 100 years old are exempt from duty.
Check for Regulations: Be aware that instruments may be restricted or prohibited if they contain materials from endangered species, such as ivory or certain woods, under U.S. regulations like the Endangered Species Act.
Harmonized Tariff Schedule (HTS): You can find the specific duty rate for guitars in Chapter 92 of the U.S. Harmonized Tariff Schedule.
Other Costs: In addition to tariffs, expect to pay shipping fees, customs processing fees, and potential state sales taxes, according to YouTube and YouTube.”

I will not comment further.

 

[MCF]

This:

Post in thread 'Why Do We Keep Coming Back to the P-Bass?'

Oct 8, 2025

I have no idea what that even means. People still use uprights plenty, but no one maker or build style ever dominated the market.


Again, I’m failing to understand what you’re trying to say and what anyone of that has to do with the popularity of P basses. Are you trying to say that P’s and J’s don’t sell and get imitated by tons of makers? I know you’re angry about something but it seems way misdirected and random.

I'm not mad at anyone, I just think the whole thing is silly. A bunch of old dudes clutching their P-basses like rifles because Fox News told you that the...

• JonathanPDX

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Get em Jimmy!

Saw the thread title and thought “snooze fest.”

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

we doing WW?......

 

[Stealth57]

we doing WW?......
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No, it’s TT.

 

[GonePlaid]

Cool cap, too.

Thanks.

 

[GonePlaid]

This:

Post in thread 'Why Do We Keep Coming Back to the P-Bass?'

Oct 8, 2025

I have no idea what that even means. People still use uprights plenty, but no one maker or build style ever dominated the market.


Again, I’m failing to understand what you’re trying to say and what anyone of that has to do with the popularity of P basses. Are you trying to say that P’s and J’s don’t sell and get imitated by tons of makers? I know you’re angry about something but it seems way misdirected and random.

I'm not mad at anyone, I just think the whole thing is silly. A bunch of old dudes clutching their P-basses like rifles because Fox News told you that the...

• JonathanPDX

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I've held a Pbass once.

 

[GonePlaid]

we doing WW?......
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I'm not.

 

[TBird1958]

we doing WW?......
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Oh yeah!

 

[TBird1958]

This:

Post in thread 'Why Do We Keep Coming Back to the P-Bass?'

Oct 8, 2025

I have no idea what that even means. People still use uprights plenty, but no one maker or build style ever dominated the market.


Again, I’m failing to understand what you’re trying to say and what anyone of that has to do with the popularity of P basses. Are you trying to say that P’s and J’s don’t sell and get imitated by tons of makers? I know you’re angry about something but it seems way misdirected and random.

I'm not mad at anyone, I just think the whole thing is silly. A bunch of old dudes clutching their P-basses like rifles because Fox News told you that the...

• JonathanPDX

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• 

It's always the same platitudes these guys trot out..................

I'd lose my ( non-paying) job here.

 

[ectoflanger]

It's always the same platitudes these guys trot out..................

I'd lose my ( non-paying) job here.

Don't know why but for some reason my brain initially read "platforms" instead of platitudes in your post-

I digress but when I clicked on the link in GonePlaids' post it took me into the P-Bass lair where I related how to me, the P-bass was the most ergonomic bass I had ever played. And that it was the tone of Rick Wills' Precision on David Gilmour's instrumental "Mihalis that prompted to buy one-

 

[MCF]

Don't know why but for some reason my brain initially read "platforms" instead of platitudes in your post-

I digress but when I clicked on the link in GonePlaids' post it took me into the P-Bass lair where I related how to me, the P-bass was the most ergonomic bass I had ever played. And that it was the tone of Rick Wills' Precision on David Gilmour's instrumental "Mihalis that prompted to buy one-

I have two. They’re fine. The ergonomics work for me (J basses not so much). I like the tone on this:

 

[ectoflanger]

Remember the clavinet? Probably something that won't be used again as much ss in the 70's, along with the Fender Rhodes which I love and may use Iin the future- nonethteless really cool in certain songs-

Here are a couple I remember- do anyone you have a favorite song that prominently features the clavinet?

The most prominent one in that it is the primary instrument for the main riff-



In these two, it's used as an accent to the other keyboards at various parts of the song-

 

[Stealth57]

Remember the clavinet? Probably something that won't be used again as much ss in the 70's, along with the Fender Rhodes which I love and may use Iin the future- nonethteless really cool in certain songs-

Here are a couple I remember- do anyone you have a favorite song that prominently features the clavinet?

The most prominent one in that it is the primary instrument for the main riff-



In these two, it's used as an accent to the other keyboards at various parts of the song-

I have a Rhodes and Hohner Bass II that has a clavinet setting. Definitely the Little Stevie sound.

 

[ectoflanger]

So this reminds me of different people posting that "Somebody Calling" by Robin Trower was a ripoff of Stevie Wonder's "Superstition".

I eventually got fed up and commented that based on their criteria, one might argue that "Superstition" could be considered as derived from Albert King's "Born Under a Bad Sign".

Now for the record I don't believe that it was the case, but it shut those detractors up-

Because to me, while one could hear some similarities between "Somebody Calling" and "Superstition", it's in no way a ripoff, lyrically or arrangement wise. And whenever one creates music from a particular genre which uses certain scales and progressions, one might on occasion come up with similar sounding phrases-

Interestingly, the album cover of Born Under a Bad Sign bears a lot of 'superstitious" symbols!

 

[dagrev]

This:

Post in thread 'Why Do We Keep Coming Back to the P-Bass?'

Oct 8, 2025

I have no idea what that even means. People still use uprights plenty, but no one maker or build style ever dominated the market.


Again, I’m failing to understand what you’re trying to say and what anyone of that has to do with the popularity of P basses. Are you trying to say that P’s and J’s don’t sell and get imitated by tons of makers? I know you’re angry about something but it seems way misdirected and random.

I'm not mad at anyone, I just think the whole thing is silly. A bunch of old dudes clutching their P-basses like rifles because Fox News told you that the...

• JonathanPDX

• 
• 

Reading the last guy's opinion (not JimmyM), Sure, yeah, P-basses are just fine. But they aren't the go-to for the vast majority of modern players and there are very, very few actual name players out there in today's music business who use one as their primary bass.

I find this to be conjecture stated as fact. (Common problem.) While people now have many options, this dude is seeing different things than I do.

 

[dagrev]

Funny, looked this up earlier when V posted that blue Reverse.

Per AI:

“Yes, U.S. tariffs generally apply to used guitars imported from Japan, as the $800 de minimis exemption was eliminated for shipments from Japan starting September 1, 2025, making all shipments potentially subject to import duties and fees. The duty rate will be based on the guitar's declared value, and antique instruments over 100 years old are an exception.

Here's what you need to know:
De Minimis Exemption is Gone: The previous rule allowing shipments under $800 to avoid tariffs from Japan has been terminated as of September 1, 2025.
Tariffs Apply: You will likely face import duties based on a 24% tariff rate applied to the guitar's declared value.
Antique Exception: Antique instruments that are over 100 years old are exempt from duty.
Check for Regulations: Be aware that instruments may be restricted or prohibited if they contain materials from endangered species, such as ivory or certain woods, under U.S. regulations like the Endangered Species Act.
Harmonized Tariff Schedule (HTS): You can find the specific duty rate for guitars in Chapter 92 of the U.S. Harmonized Tariff Schedule.
Other Costs: In addition to tariffs, expect to pay shipping fees, customs processing fees, and potential state sales taxes, according to YouTube and YouTube.”

I will not comment further.

Yeah, there is a sticky about no comments about this, thus I said nothing.

 

[Stealth57]

Today’s piliot is a bit suspect.

 

[Stealth57]

They sent him back to flight school.

 

[Engle]

Funny, looked this up earlier when V posted that blue Reverse.

Per AI:

“Yes, U.S. tariffs generally apply to used guitars imported from Japan, as the $800 de minimis exemption was eliminated for shipments from Japan starting September 1, 2025, making all shipments potentially subject to import duties and fees. The duty rate will be based on the guitar's declared value, and antique instruments over 100 years old are an exception.

Here's what you need to know:
De Minimis Exemption is Gone: The previous rule allowing shipments under $800 to avoid tariffs from Japan has been terminated as of September 1, 2025.
Tariffs Apply: You will likely face import duties based on a 24% tariff rate applied to the guitar's declared value.
Antique Exception: Antique instruments that are over 100 years old are exempt from duty.
Check for Regulations: Be aware that instruments may be restricted or prohibited if they contain materials from endangered species, such as ivory or certain woods, under U.S. regulations like the Endangered Species Act.
Harmonized Tariff Schedule (HTS): You can find the specific duty rate for guitars in Chapter 92 of the U.S. Harmonized Tariff Schedule.
Other Costs: In addition to tariffs, expect to pay shipping fees, customs processing fees, and potential state sales taxes, according to YouTube and YouTube.”

I will not comment further.

In addition to (and probably because of) the above, it seems that customs clearance for items entering the US is taking weeks rather than days.
I will also not comment further.

 

[MCF]

Yeah, there is a sticky about no comments about this, thus I said nothing.

Just the facts to help decide whether to try and buy one in the current climate.