Thunderbird Club

[Engle]

I don't play my hollow-body basses all the time, but I hear you - it's also an often sighted issue with Ric's. I occasionally will have interface with my forearm but my right hand is mostly floating over the strings supported by my pinky finger as a grounding point so it's never a major issue for me.

I guess I play my basses low enough that there's not enough pressure on my forearm to cause any pain. I have experienced what Dave is talking about with my JCs when playing seated, but I usually play standing.

 

[Engle]

I use a 6" terrycloth sweat band on my strumming forearm when playing my hollowbody. Trick I learned when still trying to conquer my LP 6er.

No red marks, much more comfy, and the instrument stays cleaner.

Back when I played punk/hard rock with a pick, I used a sweat band or bandana on my right wrist.

 

[Engle]

Those seem like cool amps.

Personal ignorance here and serious question: what's the point of having huge 1000w amps? I know if a person is in a loud band, outdoors, no PA support, and possibly a few other things it could be needed. But if you have PA, is it really necessary, or to my real question, is there some mechanical reason or things that happen that call for mucho watts other just clean tone? I have never needed more than 300w. Even played outdoor once with a supplied backline non-huge combo. I've mentioned before, J.T. plays stadiums with a single 45w head and he uses wedges not IEMs. It's not an Uncle Ted concert but they tastefully get with it volume wise. So in Pino's case, is it he just likes the tone of the amp given he always has top level PA?

Using modern technology (for the PA), there is no point to a 1000w amp for an instrument.
When Jon Button was in the Who, I remember him posting his rig. IIRC it was a PF50T and a 210AV cab.

 

[BuddhaFingas]

Those seem like cool amps.

Personal ignorance here and serious question: what's the point of having huge 1000w amps? I know if a person is in a loud band, outdoors, no PA support, and possibly a few other things it could be needed. But if you have PA, is it really necessary, or to my real question, is there some mechanical reason or things that happen that call for mucho watts other just clean tone? I have never needed more than 300w. Even played outdoor once with a supplied backline non-huge combo. I've mentioned before, J.T. plays stadiums with a single 45w head and he uses wedges not IEMs. It's not an Uncle Ted concert but they tastefully get with it volume wise. So in Pino's case, is it he just likes the tone of the amp given he always has top level PA?

 

[Miles_ONeal]

you'd be surprised how many B-15s are credited for stuff that was actually recorded on Magnas....
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I wanted one so badly when I played guitar. So they work well for bass, too?

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

I wanted one so badly when I played guitar. So they work well for bass, too?

Carol Kaye's go to....

 

[Miles_ONeal]

and rare, built in small numbers in LA....probably the only real phase based vibrato as opposed to most amplitude based ones....

I thought Fender had a couple of actual vibratos (vs tremolos).

 

[Miles_ONeal]

So a good guitar amp?

Oh, yeah.

 

[JIO]

Using modern technology (for the PA), there is no point to a 1000w amp for an instrument.
When Jon Button was in the Who, I remember him posting his rig. IIRC it was a PF50T and a 210AV cab.

I shared a 900w (Mesa,GK?) amp once at Winters' Tavern in Pacifica. I had it turned to 1 and it was too loud.

 

[TBird1958]

I use a 6" terrycloth sweat band on my strumming forearm when playing my hollowbody. Trick I learned when still trying to conquer my LP 6er.

No red marks, much more comfy, and the instrument stays cleaner.

I always wear a wristband, it's essential, and usually already on me before I leave for the show, with an extra in my gig bag.

 

[JIO]

I guess I play my basses low enough that there's not enough pressure on my forearm to cause any pain. I have experienced what Dave is talking about with my JCs when playing seated, but I usually play standing.

All basses w/o forearm scallops invite interface irritation, a slab P/Tele bass also comes to mind.

 

[JIO]

I always wear a wristband, it's essential, and usually already on me before I leave for the show, with an extra in my gig bag.

Do you colour coordinate with the drum kit?

 

[JIO]

Carol Kaye's go to....

interesting ... did not know that

 

[Miles_ONeal]

The point? Just because.

Well, you can hear yourself anywhere on stage at a large venue.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

I guess I play my basses low enough that there's not enough pressure on my forearm to cause any pain. I have experienced what Dave is talking about with my JCs when playing seated, but I usually play standing.

I had that issue with my bolt-on bird and the Grecos before I found straps long enough to wear the bass as low as I wanted to, anyway. Then, like you, no more issues.

 

[TBird1958]

Those seem like cool amps.

Personal ignorance here and serious question: what's the point of having huge 1000w amps? I know if a person is in a loud band, outdoors, no PA support, and possibly a few other things it could be needed. But if you have PA, is it really necessary, or to my real question, is there some mechanical reason or things that happen that call for mucho watts other just clean tone? I have never needed more than 300w. Even played outdoor once with a supplied backline non-huge combo. I've mentioned before, J.T. plays stadiums with a single 45w head and he uses wedges not IEMs. It's not an Uncle Ted concert but they tastefully get with it volume wise. So in Pino's case, is it he just likes the tone of the amp given he always has top level PA?

I'm so much happier with my tone and everything else that goes with playing a show using my 300W Ashdown. The GK's I used to have were 780 and 480 watts, way too much for any show we were going to play ( We always have FOH). An amp with that much power barely opened up just doesn't sound all that good and your sound crew will not like you or put you in the FOH mix if you're too loud, and being too loud is great way to get rid of your audience - people will simply leave your show if it's too loud. We played outside a bunch of times last year and will again this summer, you CAN turn your amp up under that circumstance, I got the Ashdown to almost halfway on the pier in Pt. Angeles, there were plenty of horses left if I had needed them.

 

[dagrev]

Well, LMK.

Ideally I would like to do this without being out any $$. Arguably my AV is worth more, as it’s rare, and I definitely paid more than what I could get a V4B for. But, maybe you pay shipping for both?

Think about it.

Will give it some thought. Since my initial plan was downsizing I'm not wanting to be out any $$ either. May just think more about selling you my AV. We can DM if we have additional thoughts.

 

[JIO]

I'm so much happier with my tone and everything else that goes with playing a show using my 300W Ashdown. The GK's I used to have were 780 and 480 watts, way too much for any show we were going to play ( We always have FOH). An amp with that much power barely opened up just doesn't sound all that good and your sound crew will not like you or put you in the FOH mix if you're too loud, and being too loud is great way to get rid of your audience - people will simply leave your show if it's too loud. We played outside a bunch of times last year and will again this summer, you CAN turn your amp up under that circumstance, I got the Ashdown to almost halfway on the pier in Pt. Angeles, there were plenty of horses left if I had needed them.

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[dagrev]

All basses w/o forearm scallops invite interface irritation, a slab P/Tele bass also comes to mind.

Which is one reason I was never interested in that slab body style.

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

I thought Fender had a couple of actual vibratos (vs tremolos).

may have missed but never seen anything from 7ender implementing the four device phase bridge as used by Magna....