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Thunderbird Club

Is it the sound or the ergos?


I do prefer the 60s pickup spacing, tho some will say the sound difference is negligible.



I certainly hear a difference between 60s spacing with nickels and 70s spacing with stainless.
I'm discerning about my tone, but I play both and they sound like a Jazz bass to my ears. YOMV :) :bassist:
 
Just fired up the rig to make sure all systems are go for tomorrow’s Canada Day car show gig.

It’s a very loud 100 watts!
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I can't recall if I posted a 1st draft of this recently recorded original song by The Sean Conneries here, but this is the final version after some minor tweaks. Paul wrote the composition and Kirstin wrote the lyrics. I used my custom Ubersonic bass through an MXR Bass Chorus Deluxe pedal. As always - listening through headphones is the best way to hear it, but when we're working on post-production we make sure it will sound good through as many different platforms as possible. Enjoy!

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Excellent. I like it all but the chorus is chef’s kiss.
 
Is it the sound or the ergos?


I do prefer the 60s pickup spacing, tho some will say the sound difference is negligible.



I certainly hear a difference between 60s spacing with nickels and 70s spacing with stainless.

Theres a difference for sure, how much is negligible too. But i feel 60s spacing is a little round/warmer, where 70s has a little more bark to it (which i prefer).
 
Sure. They started in Aus in the 70’s and in the early days the singer Chrissy Amphlett used to wear a school uniform - we all thought it was a nod to Angus Young.
Chrissy was quite a theatrical singer / performer. They spent a long time in the US and she married an American drummer. She passed away a while ago now, she had MS and then developed breast cancer - which couldn’t be treated optimally because of her MS.

Her/Their song “I Touch Myself” became used as a Breast Cancer Awareness ad theme in Australia.

There are many songs, I’ll grab a couple.





Early one





A really good band. And I love her voice. I missed that she passed. D@@@ it.
 
So here's some post bday pics of my unintentional present. This used Epiphone '64 Thunderbird in Silvermist came in on trade at The House of Guitars and after it sat for a while I decided it should come home with me and join the flock. I got a great deal on it, it needed a cleaning and a setup desperately. I put a brand new set of Rotosounds on it, filed the nut and adjusted everything, plays and sounds like a Thunderbird should. Not my favorite color but it's growing on me.
Reminds me of primer. I’d likely treat it as such! But congrats, man!
 
Excellent. I like it all but the chorus is chef’s kiss.
Thanks Miles! :) When we first started developing it it sounded very '80s Euro to my ears. Probably because of the accordion-like keys sound and Kirstins' French passages, further cemented by adding a limiter band past filter on those sections. Chorus (omnipresent in the '80s) blended well with that vibe.
 
It was an unplanned purchase - trust me - I only had this sudden urge and the stork brought this to my door- one Charvel MJ San Dimas Style 1 HSS FR E. It was the ebony fretboard and gold hardware that got me, along with her Japanese pedigree- and a great price -

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Not that there weren't some birth pains as the previous owner had slapped a set of what I believe are 12's with the intended tuning down to C. But they lost their way and apparently gave up on it and sold it, given the pristine condition it and it's case came in-

The tuning was off so when I tried turning the Allen screw on the back of the low E position, the string came out. So I had one of my guitarist buddies stop by and school on the world of the Floyd Rose style of floating tremolo.

So when I got it, the Gotoh 1996T floating bridge was leaning forward with the heavy gauge strings, and when I installed a set of factory spec 9-42's, it leaned way backward. So we had to ease up the tension on the tremolo springs.

Then when I tuned to Drop D the low E when played open, would ring out, buzz temporarily, and ring out again. So I needed to add relief to the neck which I loosened the trussrod until the adjusting wheel at the base of the neck was spinning free. Still had some buzz, so I kept going counterclockwise until a 25 mm (.010) feeler gauge would slide under without touching. Still had some buzz so I loosened the strings (you're supposed to before raising a floating tremolo to avoid abrading the metal inside) and raised the bridge until I had a little more than 1.75 mm above the 12th fret.

Interesting that my Strat Ultra Plus has a 9-42 set has little less relief where the 25 mm gauge slightly touches the E string and the action is a little less than 1.25 mm at the 17th fret and does not buzz with that set up.

Measurement locations were per manufacturer's instructions.

Perhaps the differences were due to the Charvel having a 12-16 compound radius with 24 jumbo frets as opposed to the Strat Ultra's 9.25 inch radius and 22 medium jumbo frets.

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So the decision came when I realized that "Paradigms" would receive a heavier-handed approach with the tremolo than I had previously anticipated, which up to then had only gone as far as a series of gentle whole step dips from a D A D power chord to C G C to fade out from the song's intro into the first vocal verses.

But then I thought about the solo break and bridge that take on an increasingly more strident/angry tone, and then the coda as well-

And I didn't want to subject the standard Fender bridge on my Strat Ultra to that-

Besides the Seymour Duncan JB in the bridge has a tone and attack more apropos to hard rock/melodic metal

So there you have it-
 
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Just fired up the rig to make sure all systems are go for tomorrow’s Canada Day car show gig.

It’s a very loud 100 watts!
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"The Ripper" and "The Grabber" names were almost as good as "Hard Puncher" (P) and "Jazz Sounds" (J) by similar time period MIJ Tokai :)
 
It was an unplanned purchase - trust me - I only had this sudden urge and the stork brought this to my door- one Charvel MJ San Dimas Style 1 HSS FR E. It was the ebony fretboard and gold hardware that got me, along with her Japanese pedigree- and a great price -

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Not that there weren't some birth pains as the previous owner had slapped a set of what I believe are 12's with the intended tuning down to C. But they lost their way and apparently gave up on it and sold it, given the pristine condition it and it's case came in-

The tuning was off so when I tried turning the Allen screw on the back of the low E position, the string came out. So I had one of my guitarist buddies stop by and school on the world of the Floyd Rose style of floating tremolo.

So when I got it, the Gotoh 1996T floating bridge was leaning forward with the heavy gauge strings, and when I installed a set of factory spec 9-42's, it leaned way backward. So we had to ease up the tension on the tremolo springs.

Then when I tuned to Drop D the low E when played open, would ring out, buzz temporarily, and ring out again. So I needed to add relief to the neck which I loosened the trussrod until the adjusting wheel at the base of the neck was spinning free. Still had some buzz, so I kept going counterclockwise until a 25 mm (.010) feeler gauge would slide under without touching. Still had some buzz so I loosened the strings (you're supposed to before raising a floating tremolo to avoid abrading the metal inside) and raised the bridge until I had a little more than 1.75 mm above the 12th fret.

Interesting that my Strat Ultra Plus has a 9-42 set has little less relief where the 25 mm gauge slightly touches the E string and the action is a little less than 1.25 mm at the 17th fret and does not buzz with that set up.

Measurement locations were per manufacturer's instructions.

Perhaps the differences were due to the Charvel having a 12-16 compound radius with 24 jumbo frets as opposed to the Strat Ultra's 9.25 inch radius and 22 medium jumbo frets.

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So the decision came when I realized that "Paradigms" would receive a heavier-handed approach with the tremolo than I had previously anticipated, which up to then had only gone as far as a series of gentle whole step dips from a D A D power chord to C G C to fade out from the song's intro into the first vocal verses.

But then I thought about the solo break and bridge that take on an increasingly more strident/angry tone, and then the coda as well-

And I didn't want to subject the standard Fender bridge on my Strat Ultra to that-

Besides the Seymour Duncan JB in the bridge has a tone and attack more apropos to hard rock/melodic metal

So there you have it-
Wow. I'm happy to be a bass player, not a guitarist! Sounds like way too much messing around. It's good that somebody does all that, but just reading it made my brain hurt. It's probably not so bad when you are doing it, though.
 
Just fired up the rig to make sure all systems are go for tomorrow’s Canada Day car show gig.

It’s a very loud 100 watts!
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what a killer looking rig......a far cry from the 7ender bass with the 7ender amp with the 7ender strings with the 7ender chord and the 7ender strap and the 7ender picks and don't forget the 7ender t-shirt (bless).... if I stumbled into a venue and saw that I would definitely stay to check out the act/bassist....
 

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