Thunderbird Club

[B-line]

Anyone have solid recommendations for setup/fret-leveling/re-frets in LA? I'm sure the price will be a bitter pill to swallow, but I gotta get my Precision back in tip top shape.

| Eric's Guitar Shop, Inc. | 8101 Orion Ave. #21 | Van Nuys, CA 91406 | 818.780.7191 |

No one better anywhere.

 

[Dr_Feelgoood212]

1996 My birth year, on my birth month too (13 days shy of my birthday)
Tool released AEnima and around that time their new bassist, Justin Chancellor, had been seen using a Thunderbird a couple times.

 

[RikiP]

I am looking for a T-Bird, and I am a big fan of Japanese-built basses.

Orville!?

 

[hillerup]

Took a little road trip down to Vancouver today and caught a show.
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Ahhh... Metallica! I'll be seing them in two weeks time, when they get back to Denmark.

 

[B-line]

Orville!?

What am I missing?
"Orville"

is that a secret T-Bird club code/handshake thing?

EDIT:

Ahhh, you're in Tokyo!
Didn't look a that.

But my search shows me that in fact Orville was Gibson; is no more.

No, a new model, maybe the Atelier Z:

 

[hillerup]

I often get "Oh, you grew up in the Northwest/Seattle in the 90s, you must love Nirvana!" No, no I don't, I'm burnt out from hearing them so much. I mean, I get why people like them, but I'm much more fond of Soundgarden and Alice in Chains. Nirvana always strikes me as angsty and angry, but Soundgarden and Alice in Chains always sounded more sinister, desolate, ominous, portentous. Plus I always gotta give Soundgarden props for their unusual time signatures. Maybe it's because those two were more overtly heavy and metal influenced than the more punk Nirvana.

But really, my favorite band of the 90s and the Northwest? The Presidents of The United States of America.

All your posted videos are "not available" on my side of the pond...

 

[hillerup]

Here in the U.S., Sam Ash has taken down the "Arriving on 8/15/17" from the Vintage Pro listing and replaced it with "More on the way..."

Somewhere there is a container of guitars - either in transit or awaiting customs.

Anyone want to offer an over/under on the actual shipping date?

I'll say September 12th

...Or somewhere there's an inpounded cointaner full of Epiphone guitars/basses waiting to be destroyed due to violation of CITES regulations...

 

[Nevada Bob]

...Or somewhere there's an inpounded cointaner full of Epiphone guitars/basses waiting to be destroyed due to violation of CITES regulations...

Nooooooooooo!!!!

 

[D.M.N.]

I think fellow TB member and luthier JohnK lives in the LA area and could probably do that work but I don't know his rates.
johnk vintage basses

Ah, that's a good point, didn't even think of him! I'll have to make contact and see what his pricing is.

| Eric's Guitar Shop, Inc. | 8101 Orion Ave. #21 | Van Nuys, CA 91406 | 818.780.7191 |

No one better anywhere.

These are also real good rates, I'll check him out as well, significantly less than I was expecting on a full refret. Thanks guys!

 

[hillerup]

More likely buckeye burl, as GBassNorth pointed out.


Life would be really nice if we lived on Quality Street.

I prefer to live on Fascination Street:

 

[Dadagoboi]

(...now you're scared)

Not at all. I don't live in Gainesville.

 

[TBird1958]

Tend to agree with September sometime.
Right around payday, the 15th.

Yours will be a " Special" Initiation.

 

[theFixer]

Can't people just like what they like? Can't it just be that simple?

^^^*BOOM*^^^

Frankly... I'm not a Nirvana fan myself... but their success and cultural impact doesn't seem like a mystery to me at all. The lion's share of their audience were a bunch of emotional, angst ridden teens that felt isolated and misunderstood (which pretty much describes any teen). The '80's was all about glitz, fun, & excess. When people started seeing/hearing these guys that looked & dressed like they did, singing about inner conflict, self-doubt, physical & emotional pain, self-destructiveness, and the likes... it was like shootin' fish in a barrel! They were doomed to succeed! Back in '91-'92... I couldn't stand them. It was nearing Y2K before I gave them the time of day, & started "inspecting to accept" as opposed to "inspecting to reject" (to put it in industrial production oriented terms). It was through this "back door" that I gained respect for them and their music. I still can't call myself a fan. I still don't have any Nirvana songs or albums in my collection... but I "get it".

 

[theFixer]

Yours will be a " Special" Initiation.

I have the weedwacker, toothpaste, soldering iron, & pickle juice. You guys got the other stuff?

 

[Larry V]

^^^*BOOM*^^^

Frankly... I'm not a Nirvana fan myself... but their success and cultural impact doesn't seem like a mystery to me at all. The lions share of their audience were a bunch of emotional, angst ridden teens that felt isolated and misunderstood (which pretty much describes any teen). The '80's was all about glitz, fun, & excess. When people started seeing/hearing these guys that looked & dressed like they did, singing about inner conflict, self-doubt, physical & emotional pain, self-destructiveness, and the likes... it was like shootin' fish in a barrel! Back in '91-'92... I couldn't stand it. It was nearing Y2K before I gave them the time of day, & started "inspecting to accept" as opposed to "inspecting to reject" (to put it in industrial production oriented terms). It was through this "back door" that I gained respect for them and their music. I still can't call myself a fan. I still don't have any Nirvana songs or albums in my collection... but I "get it".

I certainly wasn't what you described as their lion's share of audience but I was deep into the grunge music scene in the early 90's and still listen to a lot of grunge when the mood hits me. Temple of the Dog is still a favorite album. Sometimes, we just like what we like. Sometimes I need punk. Sometimes I need thrash. Sometimes I need hair bands. Sometimes I need... well, you get the point. I don't like pigeon holing.

 

[Haji]

What's interesting to me is that as big an impact as Nirvana had, they didn't have the staying power that some others did. Maybe it was because Kurt killed himself, but it seems to me that AiC, Soundgarden and maybe a couple more still be played. Nirvana seems to have faded away to a greater degree. Maybe I'm wrong, but I still listen to the Soundgarden and AiC records, and Nirvana has collected dust for quite a long time.

 

[Gaolee]

^^^*BOOM*^^^

Frankly... I'm not a Nirvana fan myself... but their success and cultural impact doesn't seem like a mystery to me at all. The lion's share of their audience were a bunch of emotional, angst ridden teens that felt isolated and misunderstood (which pretty much describes any teen). The '80's was all about glitz, fun, & excess. When people started seeing/hearing these guys that looked & dressed like they did, singing about inner conflict, self-doubt, physical & emotional pain, self-destructiveness, and the likes... it was like shootin' fish in a barrel! They were doomed to succeed! Back in '91-'92... I couldn't stand it. It was nearing Y2K before I gave them the time of day, & started "inspecting to accept" as opposed to "inspecting to reject" (to put it in industrial production oriented terms). It was through this "back door" that I gained respect for them and their music. I still can't call myself a fan. I still don't have any Nirvana songs or albums in my collection... but I "get it".

I was in my 30s, and I liked Nirvana right away. No angst, just wife kid mortgage job stress. My favorite double bill back then was Cat Butt appearing with Bible Stud. I never saw a show, but still think those two bands had the best band names I ever heard.

 

[theFixer]

I certainly wasn't what you described as their lion's share of audience but I was deep into the grunge music scene in the early 90's and still listen to a lot of grunge when the mood hits me. Temple of the Dog is still a favorite album. Sometimes, we just like what we like. Sometimes I need punk. Sometimes I need thrash. Sometimes I need hair bands. Sometimes I need... well, you get the point. I don't like pigeon holing.

That's why I chose the term "lion's share" instead of "all". I'm sure you'll agree that, if we saw a pie chart of Nirvana's fan bass in the early '90's, it would consist of a number of different colors... but the largest piece of pie would represent the 13 to 20 year old crowd.

Lord knows I'm guilty of pigeon-holing myself, as a musician. First, I was all about old-school blues based rock & roll. Anything else was crap. Then I evolved into this "serious artist", and only made music that defied categorization. After realizing that I didn't like the judgey holier-than-thou a-hole I'd become... I threw it all away, cleaned the slate, and started over as a "blues man". Once again... anything else was crap. This is only a "Reader's Digest" version of my retrospective... but I feel it adequately illustrates my point. I was an idiot. Now, my ears are open, and I appreciate music more than I ever have before. The past 48 hours have consisted of Van Halen, Tal Wilkenfeld, Tedeschi-Trucks, Avenged Sevenfold, Eric Clapton, Elmore James, Iron Maiden, Curtis Mayfield, and the Faces (small and reglr sized). Ya know what? I love 'em all! Ya know what I've learned? I've learned that openly condemning all of just about anything, serves only to publicly reveal your own narrow-mindedness, and deprive one's self of a lotta great things. If you are reading this, and are young enough to have not come to these realizations yourself yet... do yourself a huge favor & make a conscious effort to strip yourself of these self-imposed boundaries & biases NOW! It could have a tremendous affect on where your life takes you!

 

[Larry V]

That's why I chose the term "lion's share" instead of "all". I'm sure you'll agree that, if we saw a pie chart of Nirvana's fan bass in the early '90's, it would consist of a number of different colors... but the largest piece of pie would represent the 13 to 20 year old crowd.

I picked that up, Fix.

 

[theFixer]

What's interesting to me is that as big an impact as Nirvana had, they didn't have the staying power that some others did. Maybe it was because Kurt killed himself, but it seems to me that AiC, Soundgarden and maybe a couple more still be played. Nirvana seems to have faded away to a greater degree. Maybe I'm wrong, but I still listen to the Soundgarden and AiC records, and Nirvana has collected dust for quite a long time.

I must respectfully disagree. This comparison will likely ruffle a few feathers... but, in your day to day life... how many Elvis or Beatles songs do you hear in a day (from a source which you personally do not control)? I'd wager that you could go for days, weeks, or more without hearing even one. Does that mean their success or cultural impact has diminished? Certainly not. Nirvana, like Elvis and the Beatles, have become a part of history. My eldest daughter bought a couple Nirvana shirts at Hot Topic, and Cobain was dead before she was even born. It's about history and public conscious... not what's on each individuals playlist.