OH MAN!!! It looks killer all aged & creamy white!
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Thunderbird Club
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Kinda weirdo Thunderbird history question:
What is the origin of the Thunderbird icon?
Did somebody dream it up specifically for our basses, or is there more to it than that?
What is the origin of the Thunderbird icon?
Did somebody dream it up specifically for our basses, or is there more to it than that?
That's actually the Epiphone TBird logo. The Gibson logo doesn't have straight lines used for the feathers. They are curved.
I don't have a clue on the origin of its design. Probably something Dietrich dreamt up.
I don't have a clue on the origin of its design. Probably something Dietrich dreamt up.
Thunderbird (mythology) - Wikipedia
The thunderbird is a legendary creature in certain North American indigenous peoples' history and culture. It is considered a supernatural being of power and strength. It is especially important, and frequently depicted, in the art, songs and oral histories of many Pacific Northwest Coast cultures, but is also found in various forms among some peoples of the American Southwest, East Coast of the United States, Great Lakes, and Great Plains.
Probably much like the other thunderbird icons, born from native American iconography and graphic artist(s).
This picture is brought to you by the letter 'F' for.... Ford
This is the early Ford logo. I find it eerily similar
I think he knew all the Native American Thunderbird stuff. I think he was questioning the design of the Gibson TBird.
Slight side track, that lousy scratchy noise is happening again when the bridge pup is engaged.
Didn't do it at the shop after they did what they did. And i kinda cranked it while i was there.
I don't have any spare cables to swap out to see if that's the problem, but i'm kinda perplexed, the shop said they didn't find any issues internally or electronically.
Now, the Jazz bass doesn't do this at all. i'm miffed.
Any helpful input would be greatly appreciated.
Didn't do it at the shop after they did what they did. And i kinda cranked it while i was there.
I don't have any spare cables to swap out to see if that's the problem, but i'm kinda perplexed, the shop said they didn't find any issues internally or electronically.
Now, the Jazz bass doesn't do this at all. i'm miffed.
Any helpful input would be greatly appreciated.
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The Native American vibe was what finally lead me to ask about the origin. It seemed too "specific" to have just been a random thing dreamt up in the mind of some marketing guy.
Don't forget this one:
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Named by Chadwick Boot after his favourite magical beast, the Thunderbird, a beast that can create storms as it flies. Thunderbird house is sometimes considered to represent the soul of a witch or wizard. It is also said that Thunderbird favours adventurers.
Only knew about it because the kids got me to take an online quiz which sorted me into the Thunderbird House.
A Thunderbird logo with Shamrocks in it? I'll take it.
Sorry, I'm not clear on the underlined. Are you asking why the Native American Thunderbird was chosen, or why the iconography?
Well keep in mind that Ray Dietrich was also an automotive designer that worked for Lincoln at one point (Lincoln is a sub-company of Ford). Whether it has something to do with the design is beyond me, but it sounds good.
Could it be picking up a weird signal? A couple of my basses pick up weird signals depending where I am in the house and the direction I face.
I got the Native American thang. Now I'm curious about how it got from Native American tradition, to association with a Gibson bass.
When I said "It seemed too "specific" to have just been a random thing", I meant that, if it hadda been dreamt up by some marketing team... it seams more likely that they would've drawn out some big fancy ornate eye-catching fantasy bird that said "You gotta by this bass! All the cool kids have this bass!". To have such a simple black line drawing, with obvious Native American influence, made me wonder. Knowing a little bit about what it meant to the Native Americans, it's no longer a mystery why it would be chosen. I am still curious about who decided this 'new' bass would be called the Thunderbird, and who selected or designed the icon, and that kinda stuff. I haven't researched it at all. My brain just kinda went there...
How/when is it happening? It could be a bit of random muck/carbon in the pot. First thing to check IS cables. Try a known good (borrow or buy) with both basses, and if scratching persists ... well it's time to check wiring and pots.
hillerup
There are basses, and there are Thunderbirds!
Didn't even know there was a difference between the Epi and the Gibson bird logos...
The headstock looks like a stylised beak in profile ... and it creates thunder?
EDIT: the question remains, was it already designed and someone said 'hey that looks like a Thunderbird' ... or did they start out using Thunderbird iconography as the basis for the new design?
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That is possible, but not happening when trying the Jazz bass.
How/When, when i dial in the bridge pup, it gets this scratchy sound.
Doesn't happen with the neck pup at all. And makes me wonder if the dude at SA really checked anything.
Was thinking of replacing wiring and pots anyway. They didn't charge me anyway.
And much appreciated you two.
I just may take it to Rudy's here in NYC, they've got great techs there, and won't screw me.
It happens when you turn the pot or simply when it's turned up? (if the latter there's a simple fix for that -- hello TBird II!)
@JJR58 -- seriously now, if it's scratchy when turning = pot ... and if it's scratchy when it's turned up = intermittent connection somewhere. That would be my diagnosis without seeing it and running a multimeter over it.
