WOW!!! I LOVE the sound of that 4x15 cab! I can see why most guitar players would gravitate to the 12's though (in addition to the size & weight differential).
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WOW!!! I LOVE the sound of that 4x15 cab! I can see why most guitar players would gravitate to the 12's though (in addition to the size & weight differential).
I can see GKs being a great sound for what you're doing! They have such a "live" punchy sound. I see that workin' out reeeaaallly well for ya
What amps does Nikki Sixx use live?
Just to throw another name in the hat... MESA!
I haven't had much experience with any other head outside of a low, store level, volume so I can't really compare tones. I was playing my Mesa yesterday, and was able to get amazing tube overdrive... at a low volume! Feature-wise, the multi-watt switch was a huge selling point for me to begin with, and my ears are thankful. The Strategy is on the high side of pricing though. I would have happily bought a used Mesa Prodigy If I didn't get the deal that I did. The Prodigy is smaller and cheaper, but still kicks out 250W at full power, 125W at half... an SVT puts out 300W... so for being the little brother, it's no slouch.
I vote MESA
I haven't had much experience with any other head outside of a low, store level, volume so I can't really compare tones. I was playing my Mesa yesterday, and was able to get amazing tube overdrive... at a low volume! Feature-wise, the multi-watt switch was a huge selling point for me to begin with, and my ears are thankful. The Strategy is on the high side of pricing though. I would have happily bought a used Mesa Prodigy If I didn't get the deal that I did. The Prodigy is smaller and cheaper, but still kicks out 250W at full power, 125W at half... an SVT puts out 300W... so for being the little brother, it's no slouch.
I vote MESA
Depends on what era of Motley Crue, which I meant to ask what era @wolfkeller is covering, for that reason.I can see GKs being a great sound for what you're doing! They have such a "live" punchy sound. I see that workin' out reeeaaallly well for ya
What amps does Nikki Sixx use live?
I know he used Ampeg for a very long time, and used Basson for awhile as well.
Well I obviously haven't played every model Eden out there but the 115, 210, 212 and 410 cabs I've played of theirs all had a very sweet thick rich bottom end (which I really like) with a bit less sizzle on the top than than my GK. I find the majority of GK cabs I've played to be very neutral sounding and really let the tone of your bass come through nicely. GK is my second choice in cabs after Bergantino.
I wasn't gonna chime in on this one due to my limited experience with 'em... but my review closely matches others I've read, so maybe it will help in some small way.I'm sorry to say it, but that's not particular helpfull replys...
Thanks... This is much more useful...
In the early '90's, I was in a band with my now ex-brother-in-law. He ran 2 - 1000 watt Hartke rigs in stereo. Each one consisting of a 2x15, 4x10, & 4x5 cabs. His primary weapon of choice, was 6 string Ibanez SR. His second was a MIM Jazz fretless. The Harke was perfect for his primary sound. Tons of clear, bright headroom for slapping & chord work, & lots of ultra low to appease the mighty "B" string. As you might expect... it wasn't so great at everything in between. I remember one time, shortly after he got the fretless, He wanted to try & get "a good vintage tone" for his new toy. He literally spent hours on it before giving up & deciding to use his go-to sound & using a different patch in his ART NightBass multi-fx unit instead. I forget the specific model of the heads, but you could select either tube or SS pre-amps. As expected... the tube-pre accomplished nothing good, in regards to "vintage tone". Still very scooped, with thin, gutless, "electric razor" distortion that couldn't cut it's way out of a paper sack. It was a modern amp, made to sound like modern amps, and not much else. Ya ever hang wunna those "Little Tree" air fresheners in your car & then fart? Kinda smells like ya s#!t in the forest, right? Well... same sorta thing with those Hartke amps. Putting effects (rack and floor) in the loop was like that. The fx were the "Little Tree", and the amps were the fart. I used to work in a music store that dealt Hartke. I've had hours & hours of involuntary exposure to them, with a wide variety of basses and players... and I just don't like 'em. They have a very "sterile", non-organic sound to them that I find quite disinteresting and uninspiring. There are obviously a great number of places where that sound would be right at home (again... really great for chord clarity)... but especially since getting a Thunderbird in my hands... I have no use for it. All that being said... That was early - mid '90's. Maybe they've improved, or issued newer models with different characteristics... but much of my review matches up with many reviews that are more recent. Only you can decide if a Hartke is right or wrong for you... but I would strongly urge you to try before you buy.
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I'm really curious about this particular 2x12. Anybody familiar with it?
OBC212 Isobaric 2×12″ Bass Speaker Cabinet – Orange Amps
Where have I seen this before? (insert phony looking pondering emoji here)
@TBird1958 I forget if you made mention of selling it or not, but I'm very surprised that you chose to sell this one. (unless there is that very slim chance that there are two in the Seattle area)
Kick @$$ looking bass though
Gibson Thunderbird IV 1977 Metallic Purple/ Metallic Blue Tiger Stripe
EDIT:
AND THE CHROMED SIXX?
Gibson Nikki Sixx Signature Model Thunderbird IV 2008 Black Cherry
@TBird1958 I forget if you made mention of selling it or not, but I'm very surprised that you chose to sell this one. (unless there is that very slim chance that there are two in the Seattle area)
Kick @$$ looking bass though
Gibson Thunderbird IV 1977 Metallic Purple/ Metallic Blue Tiger Stripe
EDIT:
AND THE CHROMED SIXX?
Gibson Nikki Sixx Signature Model Thunderbird IV 2008 Black Cherry
- Mar 13, 2008
- 18,904
- 142,312
- Disclosures
- Endorsing Artist Mike Lull T Bass pickups, The Bass Shop, Seattle WA.
Dylan,
I used some Seymour Duncan '51 P Bass pickups in the 7endeRbird I made, they were potted into some N.O.S. '76 Gibson covers.....
Easy job, they sounded good too.
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- Mar 13, 2008
- 18,904
- 142,312
- Disclosures
- Endorsing Artist Mike Lull T Bass pickups, The Bass Shop, Seattle WA.
Sometimes we gotta do stuff we don't want to. And a bass can be bought back family can't
Would be cool if someone on here kept them in this family.
Oh, no. I hope everything is ok.
Thunderbird sighting in this video of The Runaways "Cherry Bomb" @ 0:20 and 0:24
We cover all eras from too fast to carnival of sin. We have different set/stage shows. We also do girls era and getting ready for Theatre of pain.
I've used alot of different stuff including, for amps; GK 800rb (2) , GK 1001rb, ampeg SVP pro pre into ampeg SVP 1500. I've also used a heritage SVT. For preamp, I've used sansamp 3 channel DI, SVP, tech 21 VT and RBI.
Sixx always used ampeg. Early on SVT heads into 8x10s then switched to SVP CL into SVP power amps. He used the latter for most of his career.
I have, for now settled on a GK 2001 because 1) it's GK and 2) it has a ton of power, has alot of options for cabs and 3) can go to 2ohm per side. It will push 2 8x10s per side. Currently I use 2. I'm running an Ampeg svp pro into the fx loop to bypass the GK preamp but I still get the boost knob and of course, that killer power section.
Crue always sounded thin live due to 1 guitar and sixx always had a fairly flat, clean sound. I prefer to get some drive going and more treble/low mid to fill it up more on stage. It works great and the reliability can't be beat. Next to the ampeg pre, I'd go with the tech 21 VT. The idea, still a basic ampeg sound for authenticity but have more on top of it.
On occasion I might run the svp directly into the the front of the gk or just use the GK itself. Depends how I feel that day lol.
I'll take a guess and say that, "everything isn't ok."
Sorry about the sales but good luck with them anyway, Veronica.
Far as those Basson cabs, he did use em for several years. They are very inefficient cabs, require alot of power. Sixx used maybe 5 or 6 sets of pre/Poweramp. I'd never bother with those. Sixx liked a more round, warm tone but I prefer more punchy and aggressive
My ampeg cabs are great but I've grown tired of that sound. Wanna sell em.
