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Thunderbird Club

#46,721
theFixer said:
That’s one of the big changes in bass world during my time away from music. Used to be that... if you played bass, you used 10” & 15” speakers (with the occasional 18” getting in the mix). 12’s seem to be “where it’s at” these days. From everything I’ve been reading, it sounds like there’s a good reason for that. I’d like to mess around with a good 2x12...
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12's are the new 10's.
 
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I now have the essential parts to get going on the making of a more angry Bird.
Thanks to @Larry V and @bylar13. Now i hope i can get a break this weekend to get it in the shop.
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Idk, the current trend is to use micro amps and 12s. I'll definitely never use a micro. Seen what they do for opening bands, not for me. Far as 12s, I prefer 15 over 10, 12 is in the middle so I would think they're cool. Best of both worlds maybe? Steve Harris was using Marshall 4x12s with EVs way back. I personally hate trends and it's now trendy to use these things so it's all the rage with the companies trying to cash in. It's live Mtv in the late 80/90s. Nope, now maybe I'll get some 4x15! But seriously, I would try out a 4x12
 
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wolfkeller said:
Idk, the current trend is to use micro amps and 12s. I'll definitely never use a micro. Seen what they do for opening bands, not for me. Far as 12s, I prefer 15 over 10, 12 is in the middle so I would think they're cool. Best of both worlds maybe? Steve Harris was using Marshall 4x12s with EVs way back. I personally hate trends and it's now trendy to use these things so it's all the rage with the companies trying to cash in. It's live Mtv in the late 80/90s. Nope, now maybe I'll get some 4x15! But seriously, I would try out a 4x12
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Maybe it's just because I am old and set in my ways, but I still appreciate having a rig to play thru. So far the best sounding small/light rig I liked was my friends Aggy TH500 with 2 1X12 cabs. Most of what I hear sounds like it is missing power, punch, or something. No offense to anyone that prefers the lightweight stuff, everyone likes what they like. It's just not for me, at least until I throw my back out moving a big a$$ cab.
 
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wolfkeller said:
Idk, the current trend is to use micro amps and 12s. I'll definitely never use a micro. Seen what they do for opening bands, not for me. Far as 12s, I prefer 15 over 10, 12 is in the middle so I would think they're cool. Best of both worlds maybe? Steve Harris was using Marshall 4x12s with EVs way back. I personally hate trends and it's now trendy to use these things so it's all the rage with the companies trying to cash in. It's live Mtv in the late 80/90s. Nope, now maybe I'll get some 4x15! But seriously, I would try out a 4x12
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It depends on the driver itself. The size is secondary.

415 is the death ray cabinet. I have two Acoustic 811 or 812 (I don't remember the exact designation) cabinets that are four front firing 15s. They are officially bottoms for the mains for the scrounged PA from hell, but you could drive them with a bass amplifier and liquify small to medium sized life-forms. Another 415 cabinet is an Acoustic 408. I had one of those for a while, and it did what you would expect it to do. The configuration was unique - two front firing drivers and two more in a slot, firing at each other to make a column of projected sound. I don't know if it worked like that, but it sure worked as a way to make bass as loud as you wanted it to be.

So there you have it. 415 is out there, looking for you!
 
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Gaolee said:
It depends on the driver itself. The size is secondary.

415 is the death ray cabinet. I have two Acoustic 811 or 812 (I don't remember the exact designation) cabinets that are four front firing 15s. They are officially bottoms for the mains for the scrounged PA from hell, but you could drive them with a bass amplifier and liquify small to medium sized life-forms. Another 415 cabinet is an Acoustic 408. I had one of those for a while, and it did what you would expect it to do. The configuration was unique - two front firing drivers and two more in a slot, firing at each other to make a column of projected sound. I don't know if it worked like that, but it sure worked as a way to make bass as loud as you wanted it to be.

So there you have it. 415 is out there, looking for you!
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Very interesting....hmm. Maybe time to off the ampegs
 
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Nocturnal said:
Maybe it's just because I am old and set in my ways, but I still appreciate having a rig to play thru. So far the best sounding small/light rig I liked was my friends Aggy TH500 with 2 1X12 cabs. Most of what I hear sounds like it is missing power, punch, or something. No offense to anyone that prefers the lightweight stuff, everyone likes what they like. It's just not for me, at least until I throw my back out moving a big a$$ cab.
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I am using a 3x12 set up with a 500w OB-1 Orange head (Solid State, Class A). Cabs are a 1x12 Earcandy and 2x12 Tech Amp. It will fill a small to medium size room with no bass in FOH, with no problem. Plenty of low end and all-in the three pieces together weigh less than 100lbs. Easy to break down and transport including the oversized Thunderbird bass case in a 2006 Honda Accord.

I love big amps (don't like tube heads for bass) but have tired (no pun intended) of shclepping them around. As I come up on my 50th birthday next week, I have come to the realization that I play primarily for my own enjoyment (all original bands I am in, that make little to no money) so I do my best to strike a balance between fantasy and reality.
 
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bylar13 said:
I am using a 3x12 set up with a 500w OB-1 Orange head (Solid State, Class A). Cabs are a 1x12 Earcandy and 2x12 Tech Amp. It will fill a small to medium size room with no bass in FOH, with no problem. Plenty of low end and all-in the three pieces together weigh less than 100lbs. Easy to break down and transport including the oversized Thunderbird bass case in a 2006 Honda Accord.

I love big amps (don't like tube heads for bass) but have tired (no pun intended) of shclepping them around. As I come up on my 50th birthday next week, I have come to the realization that I play primarily for my own enjoyment (all original bands I am in, that make little to no money) so I do my best to strike a balance between fantasy and reality.
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I guess you won't be considering this type of rig anytime soon. I would love this.

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hillerup said:
Anyone have any experience with Hartke Transient Attack amplifiers and their XL cabs?

There seem to a few 2nd hand on my side of the pond...
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I'm running an Ampeg SVT-3 Pro into a pair of Hartke XL's. I'm not sure why they sell so cheap on the used market; I got each of mine for just under $200. I really like them. They reproduce pedals well and have a wide dynamic range. I expected them to be brighter than they are; they're nicely warm. I like Hartke gear quite a bit and know several guys in Nashville running their stuff.
 
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