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When I spoke to them the other week they were very upfront about the dates being nothing more than guesswork as Gibson and Epiphone don’t tell them stock is coming until the day before.
Yep, I've had that conversation with them (Andertons) before too. I sympathise with the fact that trying to get info out of Gibson regarding delivery dates on Gibson and Epi product, is akin to getting blood out of a stone. But they pissed me off over the delivery dates for the 2017 EB, by just making them up, (nothing more than a guesstimate on their part), and every week just moving the "expected" date forward one week, when of course, the delivery still hadn't materialised. It would be far more honest to list the expected "in-stock" date for any Gibson/Epi product as "unknown" until they actually have it in their hands. A point I relayed to the Andertons chap who gave the "talk" at the recent BC bass bash.....
 
Just out of interest..... Has anyone got an opinion on the ESP LTD Stream models. The [Invalid or Expired Link Removed] with the "walnut" natural flame finish keeps catching my eye. ;)

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Since I'm new to this club, please forgive the stupid question, but is there a good way to compare various replacement pickups? All the clips I've found are so all over the map, quality-wise. I've heard clips of thunderbucker 66's that sound pretty good and pretty terrible. Based on the clips I think I might prefer the tb '63's. I love some of those big, sludgy sounding clips I've heard, but it's not what I'm going for. Love that clear, punchy vibe with lots of attack without sacrificing low end beef. Lollars seem pretty close to what's in my head, from the little I've heard. Again, apologies if this is redundant for most of you!
Not redundant at all. And, you will get as many answers as there are of us. I currently have the eBay pickups we typically call Chinabuckers in my bass. They are inexpensive and not too bad. They aren't as good as some of the other more expensive options, and don't forget that a lot of the sound comes from strings and the amp you play through. Add in the recording skill or lack there of, and playback equipment and I'm not sure how anybody can get a good idea of anything over the internet.

So, from my perspective the Chinabuckers are OK. They may or may not be a step up from stock. I think they were in the 1991 I put them in. They would have been a step down in the 2001 that still has stock pickups. For some reason, they sounded awful to me last night and I couldn't get the bass to sound like I wanted. A week ago, it sounded great. Go figure. Given time, I'm probably going to put another set of pickups into the '91, and they will be Lulls or Thunderbucker 63s. I'm not sure which. It may come down to something completely superficial, because it always does.

That's a long way to say that if you figure it out, let us know, because some of us have been monkeying with it for a long time and still haven't got there.
 
Since I'm new to this club, please forgive the stupid question, but is there a good way to compare various replacement pickups? All the clips I've found are so all over the map, quality-wise. I've heard clips of thunderbucker 66's that sound pretty good and pretty terrible. Based on the clips I think I might prefer the tb '63's. I love some of those big, sludgy sounding clips I've heard, but it's not what I'm going for. Love that clear, punchy vibe with lots of attack without sacrificing low end beef. Lollars seem pretty close to what's in my head, from the little I've heard. Again, apologies if this is redundant for most of you!

I'm using Lollars, so i can only attest to a comparison between those and the TB's.
 
I agree that 'good' or 'best' is an individual choice, for sure!
ThunderBuckers were commissioned to be exact clones of the pickups that have sounded great since '63. I own around eight originals.

63 ThunderBuckers sound exactly like the pickups in this bass, my '64 IV.

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66s were cloned from my Embassy pups. They're the same as NR spec. Basically Gibson used the bridge pickup from the Reverse and put it in the neck position and wound a hotter bridge pickup when they switched to chrome cans.

Next step with ThunderBuckers was the 'S' which is a hotter wind than a 66 B and MAX which has as much wire as you can wind on a TBird bobbin and hotter mags.

One concept, many flavors.
 
ThunderBuckers were commissioned to be exact clones of the pickups that have sounded great since '63. I own around eight originals.

63 ThunderBuckers sound exactly like the pickups in this bass, my '64 IV.

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66s were cloned from my Embassy pups. They're the same as NR spec. Basically Gibson used the bridge pickup from the Reverse and put it in the neck position and wound a hotter bridge pickup when they switched to chrome cans.

Next step with ThunderBuckers was the 'S' which is a hotter wind than a 66 B and MAX which has as much wire as you can wind on a TBird bobbin and hotter mags.

One concept, many flavors.

Great info, thanks so much!

Do you have a preference?
 
I personally love them, smooth, articulate, crisp, can get grindy, very even across the tonal spectrum. But try and check out Thunderbuckers as well. And I agree, hard to judge demos from vids on YouTube and such.

It really is :)
 

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