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#93,225
Count Bassie said:
Who's tried this li'l booger?

Wireless Audio Transmission Set With Receiver Transmitter
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I had a look at this Xvive Audio - Long & McQuade Musical Instruments in L&M. The guitar dept. manager told me that they tried it in store and found latency on guitar unacceptable and that it was worse on bass. He suggested that this Line 6 - G10 Relay Rechargeable Wireless Guitar System and this BOSS - Long & McQuade Musical Instruments were much better choices for bass (due to latency).

This leaves me with the impression that the cheaper units are best to avoid for bass.
 
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PillO said:
I had a look at this Xvive Audio - Long & McQuade Musical Instruments in L&M. The guitar dept. manager told me that they tried it in store and found latency on guitar unacceptable and that it was worse on bass. He suggested that this Line 6 - G10 Relay Rechargeable Wireless Guitar System and this BOSS - Long & McQuade Musical Instruments were much better choices for bass (due to latency).

This leaves me with the impression that the cheaper units are best to avoid for bass.
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I don't believe those are compatible with active basses, because it uses the ring on the plug for recharging, and on active basses the ring female ring is used as an on switch to power the electronics, so if the male ring doesn't show electricity it won't turn on the electronics.
There was a thread about it last year.
 
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Dr_Feelgoood212 said:
So does anyone have any recommendations for speaker cables?
On my Mesa I have a Kirlin and it seems to be pretty good quality. But I’ve been really liking Pig Hog instrument cables, and their speaker cables look like they have much better stress reliefs than Kirlin’s.

So I’m curious what you all are using.
(Mogami and Monsters are out of the question, one is outa my budget, the other is vastly overrated)
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Of late I have used almost entirely Rapco cables, with the exception of the pedal board where I used Warwick Rockboard bendy cables. Rapco have lasted a really long time and I don't notice any tonal coloration or noise...and they don't break the bank.
 
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PillO said:
I had a look at this Xvive Audio - Long & McQuade Musical Instruments in L&M. The guitar dept. manager told me that they tried it in store and found latency on guitar unacceptable and that it was worse on bass. He suggested that this Line 6 - G10 Relay Rechargeable Wireless Guitar System and this BOSS - Long & McQuade Musical Instruments were much better choices for bass (due to latency).

This leaves me with the impression that the cheaper units are best to avoid for bass.
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True. But I can risk $48, can't justify $200+
 
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Dr_Feelgoood212 said:
I don't believe those are compatible with active basses, because it uses the ring on the plug for recharging, and on active basses the ring female ring is used as an on switch to power the electronics, so if the male ring doesn't show electricity it won't turn on the electronics.
There was a thread about it last year.
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Good to know.:thumbsup:
 
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#93,233
GonePlaid said:
True. But I can risk $48, can't justify $200+
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FWIW I bought a Line 6 G30 from Ebay for $130 USD. I've played 3 gigs with it and practice with it every day.
The only time it's dropped out is when my bass is 5-6 ft away from a wireless access point in my house - and that's a WAP with a very strong signal.

Cordless is great! It's one of those things I can't believe I didn't get years ago.
 
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GonePlaid said:
True. But I can risk $48, can't justify $200+
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I spent more like $450 on a Shure digital wireless. That was a number of years ago. I don't even know how many times it has been dropped, kicked around, schlepped somewhere, and all that, let alone how many hours of use I have got out of it. Plus, it's a reasonably accurate tuner for guitar, bass guitar, and doghouse. Yes, it was expensive, but I would rather spend more than waste a bit on an object that really should be a Cracker Jacks prize. I'm being a bit harsh, but I can see that thing not working worth a rip, and the first time you bumped it, it would break off inside the jack and cause endless problems. Spending $48 on strings and a plain old wire cable is a better idea. You could get ten of the cheapos for what I paid, but the good one will still work after the ten cheapos have all died or been destroyed.
 
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Gaolee said:
I spent more like $450 on a Shure digital wireless. That was a number of years ago. I don't even know how many times it has been dropped, kicked around, schlepped somewhere, and all that, let alone how many hours of use I have got out of it. Plus, it's a reasonably accurate tuner for guitar, bass guitar, and doghouse. Yes, it was expensive, but I would rather spend more than waste a bit on an object that really should be a Cracker Jacks prize. I'm being a bit harsh, but I can see that thing not working worth a rip, and the first time you bumped it, it would break off inside the jack and cause endless problems. Spending $48 on strings and a plain old wire cable is a better idea. You could get ten of the cheapos for what I paid, but the good one will still work after the ten cheapos have all died or been destroyed.
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Which Shure? I know, probably discontinued by now.

I've held off buying a wireless until I could justify the cost of something I could trust. I think we're finally there, and I need to look again. I'm not willing to chance it dying while playing just because there were three people and some gear between the receiver and me- or breaking easily.
 
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Miles_ONeal said:
Which Shure? I know, probably discontinued by now.

I've held off buying a wireless until I could justify the cost of something I could trust. I think we're finally there, and I need to look again. I'm not willing to chance it dying while playing just because there were three people and some gear between the receiver and me- or breaking easily.
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This one:
Shure GLX-D Digital Wireless System - Guitar Pedal System

I must not have spent $450 on it, since that's what Sweetwater is charging now. It was a while ago, and I got it as an open box deal from somewhere. I don't remember now. I do remember haggling a bit, and knowing what they went for new at the time. Or maybe the price has gone down since then. I don't know. It doesn't matter. I don't see any signs that it will fail any time soon, and it doesn't sound any different from a cable. The only drawback is that a loud drummer who won't quit noodling confuses the tuner when I'm trying to tune the upright. But then, a loud drummer who won't quit noodling tends to disrupt all kinds of things.
 
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Gaolee said:
I spent more like $450 on a Shure digital wireless. That was a number of years ago. I don't even know how many times it has been dropped, kicked around, schlepped somewhere, and all that, let alone how many hours of use I have got out of it. Plus, it's a reasonably accurate tuner for guitar, bass guitar, and doghouse. Yes, it was expensive, but I would rather spend more than waste a bit on an object that really should be a Cracker Jacks prize. I'm being a bit harsh, but I can see that thing not working worth a rip, and the first time you bumped it, it would break off inside the jack and cause endless problems. Spending $48 on strings and a plain old wire cable is a better idea. You could get ten of the cheapos for what I paid, but the good one will still work after the ten cheapos have all died or been destroyed.
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Oh, yeah. I can justify the $48 but I won't. I've been playing bass for 51 years(!) w/ a cord/cable-not the same one, bass or cable-and I don't have the need , or ability, to move around on stage. As little as we're working, I'm more likely to sell stuff than buy.<EDIT> Except a "gun" case for the 'Bird.
 
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GonePlaid said:
Oh, yeah. I can justify the $48 but I won't. I've been playing bass for 51 years(!) w/ a cord/cable-not the same one, bass or cable-and I don't have the need , or ability, to move around on stage. As little as we're working, I'm more likely to sell stuff than buy.
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You are a bit older than me. I ought to be settling down a bit and selling stuff, but I still jump around way too much, spin the upright, dance with it, wave the 'Bird around like a magic wand, and generally make a complete ass of myself. I don't jump into audiences these days, but the thought still crosses my mind. It's hard for me to play without doing that kind of thing.

What I really like about being wireless is that I can walk around a venue during a sound check and listen to the mix while I'm still playing. We usually don't have a sound man, and I generally don't run direct, so the mix is a black art, not a science. Playing through a 360 means the audience hears something a little different from what I hear on stage, too. Getting where I can hear it like it will be heard makes a difference.
 
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