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Thunderbird Club

And that the TB-plus pups are in the pro line of Birds... not the Goth’s.

Tbh, I wouldn’t go for the Studio either. They are tanks with set necks. For not much more you can get a neck thru Gibson. But that’s just my opinion

I'm not looking seriously. I still need to get the 5-string running! I just peruse now and then to see what's out there. I saw a '64 with a headstock repair I'd love to have (from a store I trust), but too much cash for right now. I got a book to promote.
 
I'm not looking seriously. I still need to get the 5-string running! I just peruse now and then to see what's out there. I saw a '64 with a headstock repair I'd love to have (from a store I trust), but too much cash for right now. I got a book to promote.

Is it one on Reverb from a Nashville store? It looks more legit (after feedback from people here) and less expensive than the one in Seattle. Someday I will get a birth year bass, and I suppose I should do it relatively soon since the prices are likely to increase as my enjoyment time decreases.
 
Dude, use the search function. ;)
Just kidding, I think you'll find someone in this club that can answer your question with first hand knowledge. Unfortunately it's not me.

I have heard some folks in the club, whose opinions I highly respect, claim that the 1960 TBird and the new Epiphone Thunderbird Vintage Pro sound relatively similar. And that the 1970 TBird sounds a bit brighter than the 1960 TBird. So if you can find somebody that has tried both the Embassy Pro and the TBird Vintage Pro you might be able to triangulate an answer to your question. IIRC the Embassy Pro has the same electronics as the Vintage Pro. If that's correct, and if the wood selections are similar along with the neck/body construction I'd expect the two to sound very close to each other and by extension not far from the tone of the 1960 Gibson Thunderbird.


:rollno:I'll take exception with your use of the word "inferior" especially as implied to the entire Epiphone line up.

Gibson has structured the Epiphone offerings to appeal to players looking for Gibson like products at a lower price point. Do not confuse lower cost with "inferior". My $2000 Gibson 50th Anniversary Thunderbird falls short of my $600 Epiphone Thunderbird Vintage Pro in the build quality, fit and finish category. Tone wise and playability they are pretty much neck and neck. I certainly would not consider one to be inferior to the other. The Gibby has better tuners, and the Eppi a better bridge, the Gibby better finish, the Eppi better pickups. Bottom line, the Gibby TBird is a bit over priced for what you get and the Eppi VP is way under priced for what you get.

I have a Goth Bird also, and at $300 it's worth every cent, maybe more. One could argue that having a bolt on neck makes it inferior to the neck through Gibby bird design, but that logic would get you burned alive on any Fender forum.

Some folks are drawn to bolt on necks, some prefer neck through designs and others want set necks. Some people want the deep dark tone of a Goth over the more articulate tone of a VP. Some people want the easier reach of a Short Scale bird over a full length one. Some people like the durability of poly finishes vs nitro.

In other words it just doesn't make sense use a broad brush to paint Epiphone products as "inferior" to Gibson products when superiority and inferiority are terms largely defined by individual users. Are they less expensive, yes. Are they inferior, not necessarily, depends on what you want out of the instrument.


I've steered clear of Behringer products for as long as I've been playing bass. Not from any first hand experience but from all the quality control and equipment failure issues I've heard on Talkbass. Right or wrong, that's what I've done.

Interestingly, that's exactly what I did for most of my bass playing life with Gibson products. Heard horror stories - massive neck dive, self detaching headstocks, mud or thud tone, embarrassing fit and finish, an unusable three point bridge, a jerk for a CEO, etc. With the exception of the last item none of those issues has turned out to be true to me (and the jerk is now gone so even that item is a bust now days).

I wonder how well founded my Behringer phobia really is. I'll probably never find out at this point because I've got all my rig needs addressed for life.


I just assumed it was a vintage exercise tool for your index finger.


Duke - loved the Cobalt flats on my Eppi VP Bird. Took them off after a couple of weeks to continue down the string experiment path with the VP in hopes of finding the perfect string for a very unique bird.

On a club members recommendation I tried Fender 7150ML Strings and think I've found something I like even better than the Cobalt flats on this Bird. They've been on for a couple of months now and are wearing very well. Because they are a round string they have a bit more top end definition than the Cobalts flats and with the pure nickel construction they have a bit more bottom as well, maybe just a tad less mids but not nearly shy enough to get lost in a mix. They're cheap and easy to get, try some out, I'll bet you'll love em.

One of my favorite Rig Rundowns with one of my favorite guitarists, Brian Aubert talking Epi and Gibson. One of his main players is a ‘92 Epi. Go figure. He also talks about his ‘65 Firebird.

 
Is it one on Reverb from a Nashville store? It looks more legit (after feedback from people here) and less expensive than the one in Seattle. Someday I will get a birth year bass, and I suppose I should do it relatively soon since the prices are likely to increase as my enjoyment time decreases.
Birth year bird is out for me. I was born five years too early.
 
Birth year bird is out for me. I was born five years too early.

I was born in 1963 just like the Thunderbird. I would LOVE to have a 63 Bird but $$$ will keep that from happening. I do have the 50th Anniversary Bird that my wife bought me for my 50th. She thought it was a sign from God that my favorite bass and I turned 50 together. Who was I to argue with her if she wanted to buy me a bass??
 
Dilemma... There's a 2008 Gibson Studio for $999 OR one could buy this for $790:

https://www.amazon.com/Epiphone-Got...d=1545188545&sr=8-4&keywords=thunderbird+bass

"The Epiphone Goth Thunderbird VI bass is the best selling bass in its price class. Period. Its secret to success is the clean, Pitch Black finish, on the Mahogany/Basswood body with responsive Maple neck featuring a Rosewood fingerboard complete with Roman numeral "XII" inlaid in 12th fret posistion. Its famous thunder comes from the acclaimed Epiphone high-output TB-Plus bass humbucker pickups and bears the "Celtic cross" mark on the pickguard."

Hey, that second one is the best in its price class. Period. So much so they have doubled the new street price on this bad boy. I'm trying to understand what my Thunderbird IV has in the 12th fret postistion. (I didn't even know it had posistions.)
Dang! not really into hollowbodies but could really get used to this....
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CFRT4WV/ref=sspa_dk_hqp_detail_aax_0?psc=1
 
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I was born in 1963 just like the Thunderbird. I would LOVE to have a 63 Bird but $$$ will keep that from happening. I do have the 50th Anniversary Bird that my wife bought me for my 50th. She thought it was a sign from God that my favorite bass and I turned 50 together. Who was I to argue with her if she wanted to buy me a bass??
how cool.
 
Shoot, I was born too early for a 'birth year' P-bass.(1945 for me. Yes, I'm an 'Olde Phart")
no bfd this had been around for 10 years when you showed up..
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Birth year bird is out for me. I was born five years too early.

I’m ‘62 - so if the Thunderbird has a really long development maybe they started working on it in ‘62... maybe.

So I started looked for an anniversary/significant age bass. A 2012 would be be when I turned 50, a 2016 would be the year when I started up playing around with basses (again).

I found a 2011 the right time and price, and everything just worked out. So I figure ‘close enough’.
 
Is it one on Reverb from a Nashville store? It looks more legit (after feedback from people here) and less expensive than the one in Seattle. Someday I will get a birth year bass, and I suppose I should do it relatively soon since the prices are likely to increase as my enjoyment time decreases.

No, here in Austin.
 
I’m ‘62 - so if the Thunderbird has a really long development maybe they started working on it in ‘62... maybe.

So I started looked for an anniversary/significant age bass. A 2012 would be be when I turned 50, a 2016 would be the year when I started up playing around with basses (again).

I found a 2011 the right time and price, and everything just worked out. So I figure ‘close enough’.

Maybe you could just buy a thunderbird today because its a Wednesday... your logic is undeniable.
 
Dang! not really into hollowbodies but could really get used to this....
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CFRT4WV/ref=sspa_dk_hqp_detail_aax_0?psc=1

I auditioned one of those about 18 months ago (or at least a D'Angelico very similar to that). It sounded good, but wasn't quite what I was looking for. When the store decided to blow it out because they were moving, the drop in price did not motivate me to buy it either, so something about it just didn't speak to me. But it was a really nice bass. In the end the Midtown and the JC spoke to me on my hollow/semi-hollow quest.
 
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