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Thunderbird Club

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Their coffee is pretty good.

I have heard that their coffee is now good. But I just can't bring myself to try it. Primarily because of the memory of the horrible coffee they used to have. But also because they sued Burger King over the use of the phrase "big kids meal".*

*Although the events are true, it is posted for it's amusement value.
 
Time for a white Thunderbird......

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Well, my comfort strapp isn't *long* enough to do the Bird justice so I'll have to look for an XL it seems.

Anybody know the specific ins and outs of adding a strap button on a little extender post, coming off the angled surface of the upper bout? With the button on the back of the heel, my Bird wants to face the floor.

Thanks!!
 
Well, my comfort strapp isn't *long* enough to do the Bird justice so I'll have to look for an XL it seems.

Anybody know the specific ins and outs of adding a strap button on a little extender post, coming off the angled surface of the upper bout? With the button on the back of the heel, my Bird wants to face the floor.

Thanks!!

I was going through this last month. My post may help a bit, but I’d never considered the button extender.

“I just installed a strap extension, to lengthen my Levis’ padded leather strap. On my 7enders, I use this same strap, maxed out to 51.5 inches, pin to pin.

To get the T-Bird to lay at the same height as the 7enders, the extension maxed out at 56”, which lets the bass fall perfectly for me.”

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you'd take it over Dunkin?

That's funny - back in the days before Peets and Starbucks and the whole 'coffee revolution" when I lived in Chicago - there was a DD's on the way to my art studio and I'd stop for their coffee and always thought it was pretty good. Haven't had it for a while as there are no DD's in the vicinity. Also on the way was a German bakery (talk about pastries!) so coffee was all I'd get at DD.

Plus, I think the last time I was in a DD was in Boston about 10 yrs ago - the SNL guy reminded me!
 
Well, my comfort strapp isn't *long* enough to do the Bird justice so I'll have to look for an XL it seems.

Anybody know the specific ins and outs of adding a strap button on a little extender post, coming off the angled surface of the upper bout? With the button on the back of the heel, my Bird wants to face the floor.

Thanks!!
I know there are extenders available, but I can't say much about them. I believe Steinberger made them for their headless bass guitars. There may be other ways to do the same thing. What I find works best with a 'Bird is a long strap, with the body slung low and the neck pointed up. You can see some of the angle in my avatar, although I'm playing an EB-2 in that picture and the neck angle is actually less than I generally use with a Thunderbird. With the neck angle up, you shorten the moment arm and reduce the torque that creates dive. Also, I use a wide strap. With the body fairly low and the neck pointed up, you can also rest your right forearm on the lower bout, which completely eliminates any need to support the neck with your left hand. (Reverse this if you are a lefty.) It's all about experimenting. Thunderbird ergos are not better or worse than other ergos, in my experience, but they are different. They work perfectly for me and made sense right away. For others, it can take a bit of trial and error. No shame in that.

Some 'Birds dive worse than others. I find that mine generally stay put right were the are, whether I'm touching them with hands and arms or not. I even put them out horizontal and they stay put like that, too. Either I got lucky or you got unlucky, but balanced 'Birds are out there. The main thing now is to figure out how to make sure yours doesn't dive any more than you can tolerate if it's one that is top heavy.
 
I know there are extenders available, but I can't say much about them. I believe Steinberger made them for their headless bass guitars. There may be other ways to do the same thing. What I find works best with a 'Bird is a long strap, with the body slung low and the neck pointed up. You can see some of the angle in my avatar, although I'm playing an EB-2 in that picture and the neck angle is actually less than I generally use with a Thunderbird. With the neck angle up, you shorten the moment arm and reduce the torque that creates dive. Also, I use a wide strap. With the body fairly low and the neck pointed up, you can also rest your right forearm on the lower bout, which completely eliminates any need to support the neck with your left hand. (Reverse this if you are a lefty.) It's all about experimenting. Thunderbird ergos are not better or worse than other ergos, in my experience, but they are different. They work perfectly for me and made sense right away. For others, it can take a bit of trial and error. No shame in that.

Some 'Birds dive worse than others. I find that mine generally stay put right were the are, whether I'm touching them with hands and arms or not. I even put them out horizontal and they stay put like that, too. Either I got lucky or you got unlucky, but balanced 'Birds are out there. The main thing now is to figure out how to make sure yours doesn't dive any more than you can tolerate if it's one that is top heavy.

Posted before but if riding your T-bird in a more standard position - this trick helps bring the body against yours and stop any tendency to neck dive.
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I have heard that their coffee is now good. But I just can't bring myself to try it. Primarily because of the memory of the horrible coffee they used to have. But also because they sued Burger King over the use of the phrase "big kids meal".*

*Although the events are true, it is posted for it's amusement value.

Did they win?
 
dunno...for a quick cup of percolated joe, don't think you're going to find much better around...SB is a joke..
Speak for yourself, man. I'm currently in Lower Manhattan. Although within a five-block radius I have at least four Starbucks, I also have just as many much superior alternatives.
 
I think they're both pretty bad, but I'd take either over Starbucks.
No Dunkin in Canada (that I know about). Instead we have Tim Hortons. Tim Hortons is good in that it offers employment opportunities to unskilled workers for competitive wages with flexible hours. But it is where the unwashed masses go to get coffee-like excessively heated dirty dishwater. It is where many people get what I think is terrible coffee. I'm a coffee snob (as well as a beer snob, scotch snob, gin snob, and probably others that aren't coming to mind immediately).
 
Well, my comfort strapp isn't *long* enough to do the Bird justice so I'll have to look for an XL it seems.

Anybody know the specific ins and outs of adding a strap button on a little extender post, coming off the angled surface of the upper bout? With the button on the back of the heel, my Bird wants to face the floor.

Thanks!!

A lot of people move it off the upper bout to the back to avoid neck dive.

Where on the heel is the button? It may just need to be a bit higher back there. (Or do the strap over the front trick). On my Epi, the button is in the top, outer screwhole of the plate (it's a bolt-on model). That spot seems about perfect.

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