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Thunderbird Club

#139,041
GonePlaid said:
I'm sorry to hear that. I kinda thought things were better out your way.
None of the venues we play have a sound system[other than a ceiling speaker PA-"will the owner of the white Toyota......"]. One place we used to play put in a sound system(no sound man)that they charge the bands to use. We don't play there any more. We provide our own PA; these days 2 Bose L1's daisy chained. It's sufficient for the smallish restaurant/lounges and clubs we're booked in to, considering the age group-55+-that is our normal audience. They don't want loud, they want to be able to talk to each other without screaming. Also, that audience has a tendency to go home early-ish and are generally not big drinkers, which lowers the profit margin for the club. It does, however, have the side benefit of being an early gig-usually 6:30-9:30.
Many in our area have gone to weekends only for live music, all one-niters, or singles performing to tracks. Or karaoke. Or a DJ.
One club had a weekly Sunday afternoon jazz jam that was very popular. Players/singers would sit in but only the house trio got paid. But, the crowd was not spending enough on drinks, i.e., nursing 1 glass of white wine for 2 hours, so that the jazz jam is now 1 Sunday per month. The club that put in the PA used to have a weekly Tuesday night open mic/jam for charity(band got nothing-tips went to the charity). The nucleus considered it a "live" rehearsal to see how 'new' material would fly. That's been cut back to once or twice a month. All said, the live music scene in Southeast Florida is rather grim.
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All the bars/clubs around here have a sound system/PA/monitors, some better than others. Many have a dedicated sound person, but not all. So that's one thing that helps. Most clubs do at least 3 bands on a Fri/Sat night - the one I mentioned is the only one doing 5. A much smaller percentage has one band per night. Part of the problem with clubs in the Bay Area is that unless they are bringing in big names and charging a fee relative to the artists (these are the bigger venues) - people aren't going out to hear live music. (at the lower tier bars/clubs) In SF it doesn't seem to be a priority for many of the techies who could be making up the new audiences, and as you pointed out the aging audience who do like live music don't want to stay out late. So many, many bands, music bars/clubs getting smaller in number, and the result is predictable I guess.
 
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gaffster said:
I don't like how on my main player the silks are sitting right on the saddles. Maybe it doesn't matter as much with tapewounds. Can't tell.....no control group. Also noticed that on the other end... the cheapo nut lost a chip on the g string groove but string stays put. Maybe I will get a better one. Also the action seemed not as good as it was :woot: Alas the neck was bowing a bit, so after I finally found a 5/16 wrench that would fit... I gave it a 120 degree tweak. Then after messing with every screw on the bridge and retuning her over and over for 45 minutes...she plays and sounds correct again. It's like having a pet or something.
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On my JC, I threaded an old ball end over the E string to space the silk back.
 
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GonePlaid said:
I'm sorry to hear that. I kinda thought things were better out your way.
None of the venues we play have a sound system[other than a ceiling speaker PA-"will the owner of the white Toyota......"]. One place we used to play put in a sound system(no sound man)that they charge the bands to use. We don't play there any more. We provide our own PA; these days 2 Bose L1's daisy chained. It's sufficient for the smallish restaurant/lounges and clubs we're booked in to, considering the age group-55+-that is our normal audience. They don't want loud, they want to be able to talk to each other without screaming. Also, that audience has a tendency to go home early-ish and are generally not big drinkers, which lowers the profit margin for the club. It does, however, have the side benefit of being an early gig-usually 6:30-9:30.
Many in our area have gone to weekends only for live music, all one-niters, or singles performing to tracks. Or karaoke. Or a DJ.
One club had a weekly Sunday afternoon jazz jam that was very popular. Players/singers would sit in but only the house trio got paid. But, the crowd was not spending enough on drinks, i.e., nursing 1 glass of white wine for 2 hours, so that the jazz jam is now 1 Sunday per month. The club that put in the PA used to have a weekly Tuesday night open mic/jam for charity(band got nothing-tips went to the charity). The nucleus considered it a "live" rehearsal to see how 'new' material would fly. That's been cut back to once or twice a month. All said, the live music scene in Southeast Florida is rather grim.
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there used to be so many venues in SF...almost like you weren't a hip bar if you didn't have a band..the half mile long FT Laud strip had at least 10 bands on a Fri night...ugh...
 
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Chucky Stiletti said:
Seattle has a couple of places like that in the Fremont area....folks basically jump on stage (no rear stage door) do their set and jump off..chop chop...pretty entertaining...don't know how true it is but someone told me that's how the Eddie Vedder trend of jumping onto the crowd originated in those bars..
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Yep - no back-stage door, equipment wheeled in the front door through the bar and piled up in the already small performance area/space. I have a feeling it was probably like that back in the early-mid '60s when bands were 1st cropping up everywhere. You watch some of the vids from then and you can see other bands names on equipment in the background, meaning there were multiple acts on the bill.
 
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JIO said:
All the bars/clubs around here have a sound system/PA/monitors, some better than others. Many have a dedicated sound person, but not all. So that's one thing that helps. Most clubs do at least 3 bands on a Fri/Sat night - the one I mentioned is the only one doing 5. A much smaller percentage has one band per night. Part of the problem with clubs in the Bay Area is that unless they are bringing in big names and charging a fee relative to the artists (these are the bigger venues) - people aren't going out to hear live music. (at the lower tier bars/clubs) In SF it doesn't seem to be a priority for many of the techies who could be making up the new audiences, and as you pointed out the aging audience who do like live music don't want to stay out late. So many, many bands, music bars/clubs getting smaller in number, and the result is predictable I guess.
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yup. lots of the techies come from abroad where live music is not their thing....these are the same folks that devalue the price of a house with a pool cause they don't know how to work the valves...
 
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It's Thursday right?

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JIO said:
All the bars/clubs around here have a sound system/PA/monitors, some better than others. Many have a dedicated sound person, but not all. So that's one thing that helps. Most clubs do at least 3 bands on a Fri/Sat night - the one I mentioned is the only one doing 5. A much smaller percentage has one band per night. Part of the problem with clubs in the Bay Area is that unless they are bringing in big names and charging a fee relative to the artists (these are the bigger venues) - people aren't going out to hear live music. (at the lower tier bars/clubs) In SF it doesn't seem to be a priority for many of the techies who could be making up the new audiences, and as you pointed out the aging audience who do like live music don't want to stay out late. So many, many bands, music bars/clubs getting smaller in number, and the result is predictable I guess.
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The techies are unwinding from long hours sitting in front of a computer by spending long hours sitting in front of a computer and playing video games.
 
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#139,055
GonePlaid said:
I had ane pi EB-3L that dove much worse than my NR.
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Although I must say, I like "Mudbuckers"
I had an early 90's MIK Epi EB3 & as far as I was concerned, the "Mudbucker" was the most redeeming quality of it although just couldn't deal with the neck dive IMHO it's the BEST example of the "China Express"
I ended up selling It to a friend who was doing a "MoTown" tribute & he said it was perfect for that genre!!
One of these days I'm going to resurect a "Neglected Boyd" & slap a couple of them on there just to be obnoxious although would probably go with the Di Marzio versions..
 
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PillO said:
The techies are unwinding from long hours sitting in front of a computer by spending long hours sitting in front of a computer and playing video games.
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Seriously - that and phones - a big factor for any public performance today ; the constant staring at ones phone. Multi-tasking on steroids basically - experience diluting in my book. Being present in the moment where one is focused on the source of why you are standing there seems to be losing ground. The term zombie is pretty suitable to describe addicts of this trend. Making this point is beyond "get off my lawn" - it's real and it's everywhere and it has real effect on a society. It happens all across the country, but if you are in a metropolis like SF - you see it everywhere, all day long.
 
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#139,058
Chucky Stiletti said:
sure is.....wanna trade with this for a week or two?
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All you guys are making me want to spring for an actual Gibson Thunderbird. Ah, the sweet vanilla smell of nitro. . . You all remember I AM retiring, right? And that I would have to cut my spending a bit ( this from the guy who just purchased Hipshot tuners and bridge for my Classic Pro, a Dano Longhorn and a Dano 59XT ). What to do? Somebody talk some sense into me! :roflmao:
 
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