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Thunderbird Club

#139,001
PillO said:
The point is an intriguing one.

What is a musician "worth"? There are several methods of answering that could be applied that would result in figures ranging from $0 (or possibly negative) to $100,000 per show. Perhaps the biggest difficulty is that "musicians" are not a commodity - they can't be easy interchanged with no meaningful change in operation. The next greatest problem is "to whom"; that is if we look for a market clearing price for "musician" that relies upon each consumer valuing "musicians" the same. Whereas I may value Geddy at $100,000 per show, others would value him at $0 per show.

In the end, there is no one right answer for the worth of any particular "musician". I am pretty sure that the value of my playing music to me is very high. And to others it is probably very low (and could be negative).
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Value is based on the Law of Supply and Demand, so Geddy's value would depend on how many Geddys are on the market, and what the demand is for those Geddys. . . :smug:
 
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I had to share this... I'm dying over here! :roflmao:
 
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#139,008
JIO said:
The bar is actually fairly large with high ceilings with booths and room for lots of drinking people (no food) - the performance space is at the far end and a fraction of the size of the bar area. Once in the performance space - it looks like you inadvertently ended up in the alley behind the bar, but maybe that is deliberate - a grungy industrial vibe. It has an awkward L shaped stage (floor risers) and no monitors on the dog-leg section. (?) So unless the band member standing there doesn't sing or wants to hear their fellow bandmates, it's ideal. (sarcasm) Sound is ok thanks to Paul the sound guy, who like I said is an ok guy. Clubs are closing in SF because of escalating real estate values so this particular club touts themselves as legendary, a 'surviver' and how all bands should feel lucky to play at their amazing facility. :)

Think about this for a second or two; you have a gig at 7:00 pm - on a Wednesday. You show up early and have all your kit on stage ready to go by no later than 6:45. Sound man shows at 7:30. It takes at least 10-15 mins to dial it in. (if it goes smoothly) So everyones start time is now off - and then one band stays on stage for an hr. (no joke - the same band that introduced every band members aunt & uncle and what they ate for breakfast) It is a sort of masochism that allows such... state of the union? Not all to this extreme, but yah.., that's what's goin' on in SF.
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I wonder if I know that place...

I haven't visited SF in a couple of years. And when I visit, I am on business so a late night out is not an option.

Count Bassie said:
There are 2 venues here owned by a woman who states in their performance agreement that if a band plays a gig at another club within a ten mile radius, within six weeks of a gig at her venue, that band will have ended their relationship with her venues.

We talked about it at rhrsl the other night, and I commented that if they want to try and damage a thriving live music scene, that would be one way to do it. My response was visceral and concise...
I think that what I/we have to offer is also worthy, and don't need to come under heel for the privilege of bringing it into her bar.
It's deemed a desirable gig by the locals, but I think it's silliness.
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Maybe not such a bad deal...

IF she wants you to play her venues exclsuively, that is OK as long as she provides gigs weekly (or bi-weekly, whatever schedule you choose). And since you are performing there exclusively, you are employees not contractors, so she provides benefits, pays payroll tax, vacation pay, etc.
 
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#139,012
Sent my new Gibby T-Bird to my luthier to treat the neck and frets to a bit of his magic, and had nothing but my Gibson ES-335 and Epi Jack Casady to practice on for a couple days. Got my T-Bird back last night, and now I'm thinking that the others may hit the market soon. I've played pretty much everything in the past 10 years, long-scale and short, and the Gibson Thunderbird is the best. Sounds great. Looks great. Light weight. Perfectly balanced. Quick and easy neck to play. (My T-Bird nirvana: 2019 Gibson T-Bird, TI jazz flats, black pickguard w/ gold logo, Gibson gold top-hat knobs, Fender Rumble 200 v3 w/ all EQ set to 12 o'clock and set to "vintage" voicing)
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FlyingPigSound said:
Sent my new Gibby T-Bird to my luthier to treat the neck and frets to a bit of his magic, and had nothing but my Gibson ES-335 and Epi Jack Casady to practice on for a couple days. Got my T-Bird back last night, and now I'm thinking that the others may hit the market soon. I've played pretty much everything in the past 10 years, long-scale and short, and the Gibson Thunderbird is the best. Sounds great. Looks great. Light weight. Perfectly balanced. Quick and easy neck to play. (My T-Bird nirvana: 2019 Gibson T-Bird, TI jazz flats, black pickguard w/ gold logo, Gibson gold top-hat knobs, Fender Rumble 200 v3 w/ all EQ set to 12 o'clock and set to "vintage" voicing)
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My recommendation (and feel free to ignore/discount it).

Bass polyamory.

I love my Thunderbirds. But I also love my JC and Midtown. Different days call for different basses.
 
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PillO said:
My recommendation (and feel free to ignore/discount it).

Bass polyamory.

I love my Thunderbirds. But I also love my JC and Midtown. Different days call for different basses.
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Totally agree. I have several Hofner short-scale bass guitars for that very reason.
My 335 and JCB are very similar beasts, so I'm thinking that one of those two will go (most likely the 335).
 
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PillO said:
My recommendation (and feel free to ignore/discount it).

Bass polyamory.

I love my Thunderbirds. But I also love my JC and Midtown. Different days call for different basses.
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I tried to love the Midtown (both the Standard and the Signature), but they didn't scratch the itch for me (though they were stunners in Pelham Blue)
 
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