Thunderbird Club

[GonePlaid]

I thought about getting tickets for the "never going to tour again, oh wait, there is a big cheque involved? credibility be damned we'll tour" tour. But then I realized that Vince just can't sing anymore. Everyone else seems ok.

Uhhhh..........

 

[TBird1958]

Nikki has black hardware.

I know, I have better taste than Nikki and enjoy chrome for the most part ( I'm such a posh elitist) - that said, there are some Birds that black hardware really does look good on, like all natural Post '88 Birds.

 

[TerribleTim68]

I thought about getting tickets for the "never going to tour again, oh wait, there is a big cheque involved? credibility be damned we'll tour" tour. But then I realized that Vince just can't sing anymore. Everyone else seems ok...

The wife and I saw them 3 times on their last tour. I have a lot of friends, including my brother, who are going. Personally I just couldn't swing the ridiculous ticket cost this time around. That coupled with the fact that they haven't released ANY new music since the last time we saw them, I'm good, I'll pass on this and just remember them as I saw them on the last tour. The wife is a very massive Crue fan, so I'd love to be able to take her, but the tickets were just out of control for a guy who really can't sing any more. The best we'd be able to do is put ourselves in a financial bind to sit so far back that we'd spend the whole time watching the jumbo-tron anyways. None of that seems like a solid life choice. Funny how in my younger days I wouldn't have cared one bit.

 

[gaffster]

Yeah, but if you were careful about volume, you sure could fill a room with low end, even with 40-50 tube watts: Addendum>This isn't mine but I had the same rig. Plugged into Bass Instrument input 1, volume~4, Treble~5, bass@10, presence @10. Gibby EB-3 on Mudbucker. No problems.
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I had that same rig as well until I got a Peavme 300 watt solid state with a 2x15 cab. It was louder but not as much as I thought it would be. By the end of the gig that bassman 50 was HOT as the sun and starting to break up but no one cared. I gave it a girl who played guitar as it was all the rage for guitarists in the 90s.

 

[PillO]

The wife and I saw them 3 times on their last tour. I have a lot of friends, including my brother, who are going. Personally I just couldn't swing the ridiculous ticket cost this time around. That coupled with the fact that they haven't released ANY new music since the last time we saw them, I'm good, I'll pass on this and just remember them as I saw them on the last tour. The wife is a very massive Crue fan, so I'd love to be able to take her, but the tickets were just out of control for a guy who really can't sing any more. The best we'd be able to do is put ourselves in a financial bind to sit so far back that we'd spend the whole time watching the jumbo-tron anyways. None of that seems like a solid life choice. Funny how in my younger days I wouldn't have cared one bit.

I saw Iron Maiden in August. For a bunch of old guys...

Singing is really great
Bass is front and centre in the mix (one of the perks of it being Steve's band) and great sound
No new material, just doing all the songs the fans want to hear
A long show and maintained pace all the way through.

 

[GonePlaid]

I had that same rig as well until I got a Peavme 300 watt solid state with a 2x15 cab. It was louder but not as much as I thought it would be. By the end of the gig that bassman 50 was HOT as the sun and starting to break up but no one cared. I gave it a girl who played guitar as it was all the rage for guitarists in the 90s.

I'd always throw it on standby on breaks. Seemed to help. I had 2: 2 heads, 2 cabs. Wish I still had them.

 

[BklynKen]

I know, I have better taste than Nikki and enjoy chrome for the most part ( I'm such a posh elitist) - that said, there are some Birds that black hardware really does look good on, like all natural Post '88 Birds.

That's my girl.

 

[GonePlaid]

The wife and I saw them 3 times on their last tour. I have a lot of friends, including my brother, who are going. Personally I just couldn't swing the ridiculous ticket cost this time around. That coupled with the fact that they haven't released ANY new music since the last time we saw them, I'm good, I'll pass on this and just remember them as I saw them on the last tour. The wife is a very massive Crue fan, so I'd love to be able to take her, but the tickets were just out of control for a guy who really can't sing any more. The best we'd be able to do is put ourselves in a financial bind to sit so far back that we'd spend the whole time watching the jumbo-tron anyways. None of that seems like a solid life choice. Funny how in my younger days I wouldn't have cared one bit.

My daughter and I have been to 7 or 8 Chicago concerts, including 3 with EWF. Always a great show, but personnel changes, only 3 originals left, and rising ticket prices have made going less practical. BTW, I was fortunate enuff to see the original 7 three times in 69-70. Terry Kath, best guitarist ever, IMO.

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

My daughter and I have been to 7 or 8 Chicago concerts, including 3 with EWF. Always a great show, but personnel changes, only 3 originals left, and rising ticket prices have made going less practical. BTW, I was fortunate enuff to see the original 7 three times in 69-70. Terry Kath, best guitarist ever, IMO.

Frampton tix were 300 bucks a pop...

remember seeing Aerosmith at the Sportatorium for 12 bucks! WT7 happened there?...

 

[GonePlaid]

Frampton tix were 300 bucks a pop...

remember seeing Aerosmith at the Sportatorium for 12 bucks! WT7 happened there?...

Yeah. ZZ top/Bad Company @ Miami Jai-Alai was ~$10. in75(?).

 

[Miles_ONeal]

AHEM!

Are you disputing the color of Nikki's hardware? What makes you the expert?

8^P

 

[Mvf]

I don’t remember blowing up anything with my EBO. Maybe I was just lucky!
I’m going to get some new strings for it. What are y’all using on your 60’s mudbucker equipped basses?

I'm using Rotosound flats on my 66 EB3 and had them also on my 68 EB0 (sold it recently). Give a nice thump and work very well with overdrive too. Using Rumbles only nowadays and it seems the OD in the Rumble was made for these old Gibbys.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

I had that same rig as well until I got a Peavme 300 watt solid state with a 2x15 cab. It was louder but not as much as I thought it would be. By the end of the gig that bassman 50 was HOT as the sun and starting to break up but no one cared. I gave it a girl who played guitar as it was all the rage for guitarists in the 90s.

Power delivered to the speaker needs to increase 10x to truly double how loud the music is.
Beyond that, old-school SS amps broke up very harshly, whereas most tube amps broke up gently, so that you could push the tube amps farther into distortion (which also means more effective power delivered) and still enjoy the sound. Thus the widespread notion back then that "tube watts are different (or more powerful) than SS watts.

 

[TerribleTim68]

Frampton tix were 300 bucks a pop...

remember seeing Aerosmith at the Sportatorium for 12 bucks! WT7 happened there?...

Yeah, the Crue tickets were about $150 for the nose bleed sections where you either watch the jumbo-tron or bring your opera glasses. Factor in taxes and "convenience fees" and you're well over $200 a ticket, now factor in that I ain't going alone so now you need 2 tickets, you're in this thing well over $400 before you even park, eat and buy a t-shirt. It literally came down to adult decisions like "Do we go to Crue, or do we pay the Jeep payment this month?" and for whatever reason we kind of like being able to drive to work. Did I mention how much I hate adulting?

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Frampton tix were 300 bucks a pop...

remember seeing Aerosmith at the Sportatorium for 12 bucks! WT7 happened there?...

I recall being appalled when The Who tickets were $10. Someone I knew tried to scalp them at $20 (he bought the max of 10). I think he sold two to friends at cost. He kept the remainder tacked to his bulletin board to remind himself to never get so greedy again. But $20 was exorbitant at the time. Today people would assume a $20 ticket for a huge headliner was a forgery. It likely would be.

 

[Jebberz]

I saw Iron Maiden in August. For a bunch of old guys...

Singing is really great
Bass is front and centre in the mix (one of the perks of it being Steve's band) and great sound
No new material, just doing all the songs the fans want to hear
A long show and maintained pace all the way through.

I guess that Iron Maiden made healthier life choices than Motley Crue...

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Yeah, the Crue tickets were about $150 for the nose bleed sections where you either watch the jumbo-tron or bring your opera glasses. Factor in taxes and "convenience fees" and you're well over $200 a ticket, now factor in that I ain't going alone so now you need 2 tickets, you're in this thing well over $400 before you even park, eat and buy a t-shirt. It literally came down to adult decisions like "Do we go to Crue, or do we pay the Jeep payment this month?" and for whatever reason we kind of like being able to drive to work. Did I mention how much I hate adulting?

Adulting these days is a lot more painful than it should be. That's probably nothing new, but as a society, we seem hellbent on making it more so.

 

[TerribleTim68]

My all-time favorite show is still Joe Bonamassa, and those tickets run a pretty steep penny too. We lucked into 2 tickets through our local PBS station a few years back at a price we could afford. But if I had to actually pay market value for those we would have never seen him.

 

[TBird1958]

Frampton tix were 300 bucks a pop...

remember seeing Aerosmith at the Sportatorium for 12 bucks! WT7 happened there?...

I saw Led Zep on Houses of the Holy tour for $5.00, sadly, they sucked. Alice Cooper in '73 was $5.00 as well, a much better show, Kiss with Rush opening for them was about $8.00 in '75........Those were the days!

 

[Engle]

Power delivered to the speaker needs to increase 10x to truly double how loud the music is.
Beyond that, old-school SS amps broke up very harshly, whereas most tube amps broke up gently, so that you could push the tube amps farther into distortion (which also means more effective power delivered) and still enjoy the sound. Thus the widespread notion back then that "tube watts are different (or more powerful) than SS watts.

Not all old SS heads sucked when overdriven. My rig in the 80s and 90s was a Peavey Centurion @ 130 watts into an Acoustic 106 (2x15) cab. That Peavey would distort in a good way and I never blew a speaker. (I did have to replace a cracked dust cap once)
Now that I think of it, it does have a limiter.

The only time I remember that rig being underpowered was when I played an outdoors gig with a guitarist running a 100 watt Hiwatt.

When cranked, that Peavey/Acoustic rig had a tone reminiscent of Klaus Fluoride’s tone (Dead Kennedy’s).