Thunderbird Club

[TBird1958]

these are pretty cool..
Electra MPC x620 Outlaw Bass, Sunburst, with Power Overdrive Module and OHSC | eBay

I really like those, one day I'll have.......

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

<clears throat>

[take grain of salt] [sarcasm]

As someone born in England, still a British citizen, I am OFFENDED. All you non-english people speak English. You have appropriated my language and culture! I demand that you immediately cease and desist!! Develop your own damned language!!!

And stop eating Spam, Baked Beans, Cornish Pasties, and Fish and Chips!!!! More cultural appropriation!!!!!

Sincerely,

Sir Big-Ben Lift Lorry

[/grain of salt] [/sarcasm]



Agree (as corrected). Life is to short; you can do better.



In case it isn't clear from the above. Thunderbird is a piece of American iconography. Cars, basses, military units, business schools... It is widespread throughout the SW USA. In my mind, it is tribute, not usurping.



I reached that point at age 27. I no longer GAF what people think. I hate people; although there are a number of individuals of whom I am quite fond.

hmm.....Spam and Baked Beans are American....you can keep the pasties and fish & chips..

 

[TBird1958]

Shipping $100 from Hawaii? By what? Outrigger?

That is not bad at all, trust me I've had to ship stuff to Hawaii for my job, it is efffing $$$.

 

[bassgtarman]

these are pretty cool..
Electra MPC x620 Outlaw Bass, Sunburst, with Power Overdrive Module and OHSC | eBay

Didn't Chris Squire have one of those?

 

[Gaolee]

Here's one for you guys and gals. I was showing my basses to my girlfriend last night - she's an archaeologist and anthropologist - and she took exception to the name "Thunderbird" and it's logo. Resulted in a mild argument. So I submit to the group - Thunderbird: Cultural Appropriation or Harmless Tribute?

Um... both maybe. More just descriptive of what it is and what it does and what it looks like.

 

[Gaolee]

Pretty wild stuff, right? The argument was me accusing her of being too PC and sensitive.

That always ends well.

 

[Jakeman]

That always ends well.

Yeah not so great, lol. We dusted ourselves off and are all good now.

 

[Gaolee]

I really like those, one day I'll have.......

Eight of them. It is a trend.

 

[GonePlaid]

Yeah not so great, lol. We dusted ourselves off and are all good now.

"Agree to disagree." Handiest attitude ever.

 

[GBassNorth]

Here's one for you guys and gals. I was showing my basses to my girlfriend last night - she's an archaeologist and anthropologist - and she took exception to the name "Thunderbird" and it's logo. Resulted in a mild argument. So I submit to the group - Thunderbird: Cultural Appropriation or Harmless Tribute?

She has a point, it's definitely appropriation, not so sure about the cultural part since it's just an icon and not being used to define a specific cultural aspect.

That said, as an anthropologist she should be perfectly aware that nearly every society in the history of the earth has appropriated something from previous cultures, it's called building on the past and has led to the continued growth and improvement of society in general.

So, the big question for her should be - what's your point? Yes, it's appropriation, darn near everything is, live with it and grow. Or immediately stop using anything that has been appropriated from a prior civilization, including the house you live in because it was appropriated from cavemen who decided it would be better to sleep inside vs getting rained on every night.

I like my Thunderbirds so I'll continue to buy and play them. Likewise I like the strings and the frets and the tuning keys and bridges on them, which were all appropriated from prior civilizations that developed stringed instruments. HMMV

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

I really like those, one day I'll have.......

totally...always had a #$%#%^gy for one.....
using this pretty successfully for overdrive on my BaCH lately....will prolly move it to a cord/cable so I can try with others and, no battery!

 

[GonePlaid]

She has a point, it's definitely appropriation, not so sure about the cultural part since it's just an icon and not being used to define a specific cultural aspect.

That said, as an anthropologist she should be perfectly aware that nearly every society in the history of the earth has appropriated something from previous cultures, it's called building on the past and has led to the continued growth and improvement of society in general.

So, the big question for her should be - what's your point? Yes, it's appropriation, darn near everything is, live with it and grow. Or immediately stop using anything that has been appropriated from a prior civilization, including the house you live in because it was appropriated from cavemen who decided it would be better to sleep inside vs getting rained on every night.

I like my Thunderbirds so I'll continue to buy and play them. Likewise I like the strings and the frets and the tuning keys and bridges on them, which were all appropriated from prior civilizations that developed stringed instruments. HMMV

It might be interesting to see her reaction to a swastika-a design used by many cultures worldwide, including Native American tribes, before a certain group appropriated it.

 

[TBird1958]

i'd love to!!!thanks.you're thundebirds are bad ass btw. i'd repaint mine some kinda green too in the future.errrr...maybe not excactly like yours, but inspired by your birds...

Welcome Rchy7 and congratulations on your first (of hopefully many) Thunderbird, please feel free to jump in anywhere, we encourage questions here, not the "Search" function, a sense of humor is welcome and beware those Watermelon loving Canadians - You're #830 here.
Green Thunderbirds just happen, somehow, I have three and will happily buy another, you should you go for it!






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[Miles_ONeal]

Thunderbird Embassy sounds amazing. "Club" is so silly.

Yeah, but then we have to decide who's an ambassador, security detail, intel weenie, undercover CIA, secretary, undersecretary, overundersecretary, and so on. And eventually someone tries to bomb us. Whereas as a M/C gang, everyone leaves us alone.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

After digging back a helluva lotta pages and reading a coupla comparisons, I'm now wondering if I'd be 'happy'* with a Classic Pro.

* a very relative term

What are you looking for in this bass?

 

[PillO]

Yeah not so great, lol. We dusted ourselves off and are all good now.

She says that. But you aren't.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Here's one for you guys and gals. I was showing my basses to my girlfriend last night - she's an archaeologist and anthropologist - and she took exception to the name "Thunderbird" and it's logo. Resulted in a mild argument. So I submit to the group - Thunderbird: Cultural Appropriation or Harmless Tribute?

Personally, I think a lot of what gets labeled "cultural appropriation" is silly. No one is taking anything away from someone. Cultures move forward by learning, blending, building on, remembering, etc. If Gibson or Epiphone tried to take ownership of the word Thunderbird, that would be another story. If they tried to change people's perception of history or culture, there would be a problem. There are other problems as well, but you get the idea. I definitely rank this one as harmless tribute. Were I hearing arguments from members of the tribes from whom we get knowledge of the mythology, I'd be more open to the possibility there was a problem. But unless this *pologist makes a really good, specific argument, I'd just say nah.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

these are pretty cool..
Electra MPC x620 Outlaw Bass, Sunburst, with Power Overdrive Module and OHSC | eBay

When these were being made, I really wanted one of the guitars. Couldn't afford it.

 

[PillO]

She has a point, it's definitely appropriation, not so sure about the cultural part since it's just an icon and not being used to define a specific cultural aspect.

That said, as an anthropologist she should be perfectly aware that nearly every society in the history of the earth has appropriated something from previous cultures, it's called building on the past and has led to the continued growth and improvement of society in general.

So, the big question for her should be - what's your point? Yes, it's appropriation, darn near everything is, live with it and grow. Or immediately stop using anything that has been appropriated from a prior civilization, including the house you live in because it was appropriated from cavemen who decided it would be better to sleep inside vs getting rained on every night.

I like my Thunderbirds so I'll continue to buy and play them. Likewise I like the strings and the frets and the tuning keys and bridges on them, which were all appropriated from prior civilizations that developed stringed instruments. HMMV

Screw that! I am disavowing all cultural appropriations. I'm going back to being a caveman. Just as soon as I put it out there on YouFace and InstaToob so that I can find a cave with decent cell signal, a nearby Starbucks with good WiFi, and reliable electricity. Or at least until Home Depot will deliver a diesel generator. I wonder if Dominos delivers to caves. I guess they better or I will sue them for discrimination.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

something not adding up here...
Vintage 1961 GIBSON EB-0 Electric Bass Guitar SG | eBay

$10/year. Seems legit.