Thunderbird Club

[tom_t]

Found this: 80s MIJ Greco refinished in blue nitro with a little of relic job. What do you think? How these compare to Epi Vintage Pro? If you could not afford to have both, would you let Epi go for this?

 

[Miles_ONeal]

I never go by half-measures...

The pendulum on prescribing always swings. Narcotics, antibiotics, many others. But, development and marketing change things as well. With narcotics, longer acting drugs were developed that the marketing said (not entirely accurately) were less addictive. Too few prescribers looked at the data critically. Too many patients put blind trust in someone that they see for 10 minutes at a time and fail to ask questions. It all worked well until it didn't and that was a result of both prescriber and patient behaviour.

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Family doctors/primary care physicians (PCPs) are the gate keepers of "the system". Medicine is purported to be a science and evidence driven field. But all the PCPs I have contact with are not reading the literature that comes out weekly (New England Journal of Medicine, Journal of the AMA, etc.). It is a lot to keep up on. Some subscribe to summary services that report the high impact, scientifically, or clinically important papers from the major journals; it allows efficient use of time as you can then look up just he articles of interest/importance to you. But many do not and just wait until guidelines are promulgated (often a few years later). There are also some that don't keep up after getting a license.

PCPs could be the greatest resource in "the system" but the PCPs themselves are their own worst enemy. 10-20% will go work a small community where they are it. They do a lot of interesting medicine. They are highly competent. And they keep up. They also know when they are out of their depth. But 80-90% work in larger centres (because there are lots of support systems for them) and are either "traffic cops" directing patients to specialists as they lack confidence or they are over confident and diagnose/prescribe well beyond their knowledge and ability.
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We had great docs in GA, in large part through Sharon and her sisters having been in medicine. It took me years to find a good FM/PCP here that I could get in to see without a 1-2 week wait.

 

[Larry V]

I'd go for the Greco! I'm not a fan of relic'ing but this appears to be done tastefully and not overdone. VP's are great basses from what everyone says but the Greco is a tone monster and highly collectible.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Found this: 80s MIJ Greco refinished in blue nitro with a little of relic job. What do you think? How these compare to Epi Vintage Pro? If you could not afford to have both, would you let Epi go for this?
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the Greco in a heartbeat, for the reasons Larry noted. If I didn’t get along with it, could always resell and get another VP.

 

[tom_t]

I'd go for the Greco! I'm not a fan of relic'ing but this appears to be done tastefully and not overdone. VP's are great basses from what everyone says but the Greco is a tone monster and highly collectible.

the Greco in a heartbeat, for the reasons Larry noted. If I didn’t get along with it, could always resell and get another VP.

didn’t know they are collectible.

I just want to add that we are looking at 1000$ here.

 

[dagrev]

didn’t know they are collectible.

I just want to add that we are looking at 1000$ here.

As much as I love VPs.... What Larry and Miles said seem to be the word of wisdom. Only someone who has both could give a good pro/con for each and describe the tonal differences.
Of course you might be able to pick up two used/demo VPs for about that price. If one were so inclined.

 

[Larry V]

didn’t know they are collectible.

I just want to add that we are looking at 1000$ here.

Anytime there's a limited quantity and they're highly regarded, they're collectible. $1,000 sounds like a good price.

As much as I love VPs.... What Larry and Miles said seem to be the word of wisdom. Only someone who has both could give a good pro/con for each and describe the tonal differences.
Of course you might be able to pick up two used/demo VPs for about that price. If one were so inclined.

Our Queen, @TBird1958 can help here when she gets to the forum.

 

[tom_t]

Thanks. Good to know. The guy has one more in tobacco sunburst and 70s EB3 copy also for sale but this blue bird caught my eye.

 

[TBird1958]

Found this: 80s MIJ Greco refinished in blue nitro with a little of relic job. What do you think? How these compare to Epi Vintage Pro? If you could not afford to have both, would you let Epi go for this?
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I have both a Greco and an Epi VP, it's not even a contest really........The Greco eats the Epi for breakfast, (but, then it eats almost everything for breakfast!) the pickup is WAY, WAY bigger, more bass, more everything. Build quality is about the same, maybe a little better hardware on the Epi, esp the bridge.

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

I agree. Just seems a little clunky or heavy. Love the way it adjusts, however. But as for looks, you can't beat the vintage two piece.

when they intonate...

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

That's interesting. What thickness have you got for the non reverse?

both (all) NR's..

 

[tom_t]

I have both a Greco and an Epi VP, it's not even a contest really........The Greco eats the Epi for breakfast, (but, then it eats almost everything for breakfast!) the pickup is WAY, WAY bigger, more bass, more everything. Build quality is about the same, maybe a little better hardware on the Epi, esp the bridge.

Thank you for your input. It’s good to hear from someone that has experience with both.

how about the neck? More less the same? Thicker? Thinner?

 

[TBird1958]

Thank you for your input. It’s good to hear from someone that has experience with both.

how about the neck? More less the same? Thicker? Thinner?

It's slightly shorter scale at 33" and change, and a bit wider than an Epi, not by much and not in a bad way - but different from my Gibsons and the VP.

It really does RAWR, me having a little fun with the 7ender folks.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Thanks. Good to know. The guy has one more in tobacco sunburst and 70s EB3 copy also for sale but this blue bird caught my eye.

The blue is gorgeous.

 

[BklynKen]

The blue is gorgeous.

Back off. That's @MCF's color.

 

[redstrand]

Middle position TBird pickups just kill in a mix.

 

[MCF]

Found this: 80s MIJ Greco refinished in blue nitro with a little of relic job. What do you think? How these compare to Epi Vintage Pro? If you could not afford to have both, would you let Epi go for this?
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@Miles_ONeal is right. That is gorgeous. I refuse to entertain the thought of letting any Tbird go.

 

[BklynKen]

Speaking of Rex Brown. This is not the supposed forthcoming thing.

 

[MCF]

Speaking of Rex Brown. This is not the supposed forthcoming thing.


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I wonder if he added screws to the Hipshot.

 

[BklynKen]

I wonder if he added screws to the Hipshot.

It's a Gibson.