Thunderbird Club

[Miles_ONeal]

best example (imho) would be;
picture a small car with a small engine…… there isn’t much that car can do to hurt that engine…..
the forces developed in a larger heavier frame, can be more harmful to that same small engine…make sense?
what ends up happening is the smaller amp’s output stage will be able to drive the cones to an acceptable excursion but are not typically rugged enough to withstand the electrical transients reflected back to it the cone will induce when bouncing back to it’s 0 position…..interesting failure mechanism…

Have you ever seen that? It makes sense in theory but I never heard of it happening, especially with a robust amp.

 

[GBassNorth]

Have you ever seen that? It makes sense in theory but I never heard of it happening, especially with a robust amp.

I use rocker logic - play it hard, if it breaks buy a bigger one.

 

[Engle]

best example (imho) would be;
picture a small car with a small engine…… there isn’t much that car can do to hurt that engine…..
the forces developed in a larger heavier frame, can be more harmful to that same small engine…make sense?
what ends up happening is the smaller amp’s output stage will be able to drive the cones to an acceptable excursion but are not typically rugged enough to withstand the electrical transients reflected back to it the cone will induce when bouncing back to it’s 0 position…..interesting failure mechanism…

I’ve played my PF50T through an Ampeg 810 with no problem. It sounded great. It was a rock session with 2 guitarists and I had had to turn it down.
I’ve never heard of one failing when pushing a big cab or multiple cabs.

 

[Engle]

Have you ever seen that? It makes sense in theory but I never heard of it happening, especially with a robust amp.

We typed at the same time. Lots of people run PF50Ts with big cabs.

 

[Engle]

I use rocker logic - play it hard, if it breaks buy a bigger one.

If I could have broken it that way, I would have by now

 

[WillyW]

Your PF50T doesn’t break up? Mine sure does, especially cranked into a 4 ohm cab.

I’ll crank it up when I get the chance later, but yeah it was annoyingly clean…

come to think of it I haven’t tried her in my PR-410 600w 4ohm cab yet….

I really do like this amp a lot, even though I have much bigger options.

I have it mounted on the fliptop lid currently, but I may rethink that and put her into a rack case so she isn’t tied to the porta-flex cab.

 

[GBassNorth]

Heads up!
At GC…
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[Nocturnal]

Heads up!
At GC…
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Already sold. I wonder if it was the new model or the previous model.

 

[BklynKen]

Already sold. I wonder if it was the new model or the previous model.

It's still available. It's a new model.

 

[Nocturnal]

It's still available. It's a new model.

Weird. When I clicked on it, it had the "Oops! Who turned down the music?" message when something is sold. Link works now tho.

 

[PillO]

Weird. When I clicked on it, it had the "Oops! Who turned down the music?" message when something is sold. Link works now tho.

Someone had it in their cart then changed their mind?

 

[BklynKen]

Weird. When I clicked on it, it had the "Oops! Who turned down the music?" message when something is sold. Link works now tho.

Ah, when I first checked it out, the GC site said it was doing maintenance, so the site was unavailable. What a bunch of amateurs, not doing maintenance in the middle of the night.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Already sold. I wonder if it was the new model or the previous model.

Based on the color, has to be the new model.

 

[dagrev]

best example (imho) would be;
picture a small car with a small engine…… there isn’t much that car can do to hurt that engine…..
the forces developed in a larger heavier frame, can be more harmful to that same small engine…make sense?
what ends up happening is the smaller amp’s output stage will be able to drive the cones to an acceptable excursion but are not typically rugged enough to withstand the electrical transients reflected back to it the cone will induce when bouncing back to it’s 0 position…..interesting failure mechanism…

Cool and interesting! Thanks C.

 

[PillO]

Ah, when I first checked it out, the GC site said it was doing maintenance, so the site was unavailable. What a bunch of amateurs, not doing maintenance in the middle of the night.

With the time change, perhaps they thought it was the middle of the night...

 

[GBassNorth]

With the time change, perhaps they thought it was the middle of the night...

It’s 6:00pm here, looks like the middle of the night.

 

[MCF]

Weird. When I clicked on it, it had the "Oops! Who turned down the music?" message when something is sold. Link works now tho.

Good price too. Especially if they didn’t lose the case.

 

[Nocturnal]

Based on the color, has to be the new model.

It didn't have a picture the first time I checked the link and you know GC, why provide details like model year in the description??

 

[Nocturnal]

Ah, when I first checked it out, the GC site said it was doing maintenance, so the site was unavailable. What a bunch of amateurs, not doing maintenance in the middle of the night.

 

[TBird1958]

It’s 6:00pm here, looks like the middle of the night.

It was dark by about 4:15 here today.........The older I get the more I begin to understand why people move nearer the Equator, it's warmer and brighter.