Thunderbird Club

[bobyoung53]

I got some picks from Gary Rossington, Barry Lee Harwood and/or/maybe Leon from the Rossington Collins Band days. Found several on the floor after it was over and picked them up. Must have been too stupid or slow to catch them with my hand after banking them off my head!

I never knew what he did with it, he passed away a few years later and I never asked him.

 

[bobyoung53]

I can adjust to about anything, but when I had a Ric it just felt less odd the longer I had it never normal. Traded it for my Regenerate '55 Pbass Heritage Plus and got some cash as well. One of the best trades I ever made.

That's one of the charms of playing Rics, one day you pick it up and it feels like home, course that can sometimes take a long time.

 

[Count Bassie]

You could - and I'm sure it's been done to confirm 100% originality on a very pricey vintage (usually) guitar. https://guitars.com/value-vintage-instrument-appraisal-0

Glue...

 

[WillyW]

Before and after…

shape was off a bit so I had to reposition and drill all the holes again.

y’all know me, I hate to modify anything.

 

[Count Bassie]

Before and after…

shape was off a bit so I had to reposition and drill all the holes again.

y’all know me, I hate to modify anything.

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Dude. Shoes.

 

[WillyW]

Dude. Shoes.

not mine

 

[JIO]

Radio during that time was great, you'd hear The Beatles, Beach Boys, Four Seasons, Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra, Herb Alpert etc. Oldies were anything that wasn't on the current charts. Look at this:

I had that Swan 45 when I was a kid too.

US Top 40 Singles for the Week Ending 28th March, 1964
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TW LW TITLE –•– Artist (Label)-Weeks on Chart (Peak To Date)

1 1 SHE LOVES YOU –•– The Beatles (Swan)-10 (2 weeks at #1) (1)
2 2 I WANT TO HOLD YOUR HAND –•– The Beatles (Capitol)-11 (1)
3 7 TWIST AND SHOUT –•– The Beatles (Tollie)-3 (3)
4 3 PLEASE PLEASE ME –•– The Beatles (Vee-Jay)-9 (3)
5 4 DAWN (Go Away) –•– The Four Seasons (Philips)-9 (3)
6 5 FUN, FUN, FUN –•– The Beach Boys (Capitol)-7 (5)
7 19 SUSPICION –•– Terry Stafford (Crusader)-6 (7)
8 10 HELLO, DOLLY! –•– Louis Armstrong (Kapp)-7 (8)
9 13 MY HEART BELONGS TO ONLY YOU –•– Bobby Vinton (Epic)-5 (9)
10 15 GLAD ALL OVER –•– The Dave Clark Five (Epic)-7 (10)

11 11 HI-HEEL SNEAKERS –•– Tommy Tucker (Checker)-8 (11)
12 12 KISSIN’ COUSINS –•– Elvis Presley (RCA Victor)-6 (12)
13 6 NAVY BLUE –•– Diane Renay (20th Century)-10 (6)
14 8 JAVA –•– Al Hirt (RCA Victor)-13 (4)
15 23 THE WAY YOU DO THE THINGS YOU DO –•– The Temptations (Gordy)-5 (15)
16 22 THE SHOOP SHOOP SONG (It’s In His Kiss) –•– Betty Everett (Vee-Jay)-5 (16)
17 9 I LOVE YOU MORE AND MORE EVERY DAY –•– Al Martino (Capitol)-9 (9)
18 20 STAY –•– The Four Seasons (Vee-Jay)-7 (18)
19 34 DON’T LET THE RAIN COME DOWN (Crooked Little Man) –•– The Serendipity Singers (Philips)-5 (19)
20 25 NEEDLES AND PINS –•– The Searchers (Kapp)-4 (20)

21 16 CALIFORNIA SUN –•– The Rivieras (Riviera)-10 (5)
22 17 SEE THE FUNNY LITTLE CLOWN –•– Bobby Goldsboro (United Artists)-12 (9)
23 54 YOU’RE A WONDERFUL ONE –•– Marvin Gaye (Tamla)-3 (23)
24 24 BLUE WINTER –•– Connie Francis (MGM)-7 (24)
25 18 GOOD NEWS –•– Sam Cooke (RCA Victor)-10 (11)
26 14 I SAW HER STANDING THERE –•– The Beatles (Capitol)-8 (14)
27 — CAN’T BUY ME LOVE –•– The Beatles (Capitol)-1 (27)
28 28 PENETRATION –•– The Pyramids (Best)-9 (18)
29 33 IT HURTS ME –•– Elvis Presley (RCA Victor)-5 (29)
30 21 I ONLY WANT TO BE WITH YOU –•– Dusty Springfield (Philips)-10 (12)

31 41 HIPPY HIPPY SHAKE –•– The Swinging Blue Jeans (Imperial)-4 (31)
32 43 THINK –•– Brenda Lee (Decca)-4 (32)
33 32 STARDUST –•– Nino Tempo and April Stevens (Atco)-6 (32)
34 44 DEAD MAN’S CURVE –•– Jan and Dean (Liberty)-4 (34)
35 38 HEY JEAN, HEY DEAN –•– Dean and Jean (Rust)-6 (35)
36 30 OH BABY DON’T YOU WEEP (Part 1) –•– James Brown and the Famous Flames (King)-10 (23)
37 57 AIN’T NOTHING YOU CAN DO –•– Bobby Bland (Duke)-4 (37)
38 26 THE SHELTER OF YOUR ARMS –•– Sammy Davis, Jr. (Reprise)-17 (17)
39 35 UNDERSTAND YOUR MAN –•– Johnny Cash (Columbia)-7 (35)
40 46 MY HEART CRIES FOR YOU –•– Ray Charles (ABC-Paramount)-5 (40)

THIS WEEK’S DROPS

45 39 BABY, DON’T YOU CRY (The New Swingova Rhythm) –•– Ray Charles (ABC-Paramount)-6 (39)
47 27 WHO DO YOU LOVE –•– The Sapphires (Swan)-12 (25)
48 37 WORRIED GUY –•– Johnny Tillotson (MGM)-6 (37)
49 40 I WISH YOU LOVE –•– Gloria Lynne (Everest)-12 (28)

POWER PLAYS

31 41 HIPPY HIPPY SHAKE –•– The Swinging Blue Jeans (Imperial)-4 (31)
32 43 THINK –•– Brenda Lee (Decca)-4 (32)
33 32 STARDUST –•– Nino Tempo and April Stevens (Atco)-6 (32)
34 44 DEAD MAN’S CURVE –•– Jan and Dean (Liberty)-4 (34)
35 38 HEY JEAN, HEY DEAN –•– Dean and Jean (Rust)-6 (35)
36 30 OH BABY DON’T YOU WEEP (Part 1) –•– James Brown and the Famous Flames (King)-10 (23)
37 57 AIN’T NOTHING YOU CAN DO –•– Bobby Bland (Duke)-4 (37)
38 26 THE SHELTER OF YOUR ARMS –•– Sammy Davis, Jr. (Reprise)-17 (17)
39 35 UNDERSTAND YOUR MAN –•– Johnny Cash (Columbia)-7 (35)
40 46 MY HEART CRIES FOR YOU –•– Ray Charles (ABC-Paramount)-5 (40)

 

[Nocturnal]

It was a good mail day at Casa Nocturnal today. I received two CD's and some custom T-Bird art with my Poppy order. Who knew @bylar13 was such a talented artist?

***For clarity, the Kill Cheerleader disc is not from Byler13***

 

[dagrev]

I'd never think of looking there.

See, it even worked on an expert Thunderbird hunter like yourself!

 

[dagrev]

Before and after…

shape was off a bit so I had to reposition and drill all the holes again.

y’all know me, I hate to modify anything.

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New stage shoes for Christmas? Cool!

 

[bobyoung53]

31 41 HIPPY HIPPY SHAKE –•– The Swinging Blue Jeans (Imperial)-4 (31)
32 43 THINK –•– Brenda Lee (Decca)-4 (32)
33 32 STARDUST –•– Nino Tempo and April Stevens (Atco)-6 (32)
34 44 DEAD MAN’S CURVE –•– Jan and Dean (Liberty)-4 (34)
35 38 HEY JEAN, HEY DEAN –•– Dean and Jean (Rust)-6 (35)
36 30 OH BABY DON’T YOU WEEP (Part 1) –•– James Brown and the Famous Flames (King)-10 (23)
37 57 AIN’T NOTHING YOU CAN DO –•– Bobby Bland (Duke)-4 (37)
38 26 THE SHELTER OF YOUR ARMS –•– Sammy Davis, Jr. (Reprise)-17 (17)
39 35 UNDERSTAND YOUR MAN –•– Johnny Cash (Columbia)-7 (35)
40 46 MY HEART CRIES FOR YOU –•– Ray Charles (ABC-Paramount)-5 (40)

Yeah, I noticed that too, also James Brown, Bobby 'Blue' Bland, Johnny Cash. I heard Dead Man's Curve today on the 60's channel, Sirius XM.

 

[bobyoung53]

Radio during that time was great, you'd hear The Beatles, Beach Boys, Four Seasons, Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra, Herb Alpert etc. Oldies were anything that wasn't on the current charts. Look at this:

I had that Swan 45 when I was a kid too.

US Top 40 Singles for the Week Ending 28th March, 1964
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TW LW TITLE –•– Artist (Label)-Weeks on Chart (Peak To Date)

1 1 SHE LOVES YOU –•– The Beatles (Swan)-10 (2 weeks at #1) (1)
2 2 I WANT TO HOLD YOUR HAND –•– The Beatles (Capitol)-11 (1)
3 7 TWIST AND SHOUT –•– The Beatles (Tollie)-3 (3)
4 3 PLEASE PLEASE ME –•– The Beatles (Vee-Jay)-9 (3)
5 4 DAWN (Go Away) –•– The Four Seasons (Philips)-9 (3)
6 5 FUN, FUN, FUN –•– The Beach Boys (Capitol)-7 (5)
7 19 SUSPICION –•– Terry Stafford (Crusader)-6 (7)
8 10 HELLO, DOLLY! –•– Louis Armstrong (Kapp)-7 (8)
9 13 MY HEART BELONGS TO ONLY YOU –•– Bobby Vinton (Epic)-5 (9)
10 15 GLAD ALL OVER –•– The Dave Clark Five (Epic)-7 (10)

11 11 HI-HEEL SNEAKERS –•– Tommy Tucker (Checker)-8 (11)
12 12 KISSIN’ COUSINS –•– Elvis Presley (RCA Victor)-6 (12)
13 6 NAVY BLUE –•– Diane Renay (20th Century)-10 (6)
14 8 JAVA –•– Al Hirt (RCA Victor)-13 (4)
15 23 THE WAY YOU DO THE THINGS YOU DO –•– The Temptations (Gordy)-5 (15)
16 22 THE SHOOP SHOOP SONG (It’s In His Kiss) –•– Betty Everett (Vee-Jay)-5 (16)
17 9 I LOVE YOU MORE AND MORE EVERY DAY –•– Al Martino (Capitol)-9 (9)
18 20 STAY –•– The Four Seasons (Vee-Jay)-7 (18)
19 34 DON’T LET THE RAIN COME DOWN (Crooked Little Man) –•– The Serendipity Singers (Philips)-5 (19)
20 25 NEEDLES AND PINS –•– The Searchers (Kapp)-4 (20)

21 16 CALIFORNIA SUN –•– The Rivieras (Riviera)-10 (5)
22 17 SEE THE FUNNY LITTLE CLOWN –•– Bobby Goldsboro (United Artists)-12 (9)
23 54 YOU’RE A WONDERFUL ONE –•– Marvin Gaye (Tamla)-3 (23)
24 24 BLUE WINTER –•– Connie Francis (MGM)-7 (24)
25 18 GOOD NEWS –•– Sam Cooke (RCA Victor)-10 (11)
26 14 I SAW HER STANDING THERE –•– The Beatles (Capitol)-8 (14)
27 — CAN’T BUY ME LOVE –•– The Beatles (Capitol)-1 (27)
28 28 PENETRATION –•– The Pyramids (Best)-9 (18)
29 33 IT HURTS ME –•– Elvis Presley (RCA Victor)-5 (29)
30 21 I ONLY WANT TO BE WITH YOU –•– Dusty Springfield (Philips)-10 (12)

31 41 HIPPY HIPPY SHAKE –•– The Swinging Blue Jeans (Imperial)-4 (31)
32 43 THINK –•– Brenda Lee (Decca)-4 (32)
33 32 STARDUST –•– Nino Tempo and April Stevens (Atco)-6 (32)
34 44 DEAD MAN’S CURVE –•– Jan and Dean (Liberty)-4 (34)
35 38 HEY JEAN, HEY DEAN –•– Dean and Jean (Rust)-6 (35)
36 30 OH BABY DON’T YOU WEEP (Part 1) –•– James Brown and the Famous Flames (King)-10 (23)
37 57 AIN’T NOTHING YOU CAN DO –•– Bobby Bland (Duke)-4 (37)
38 26 THE SHELTER OF YOUR ARMS –•– Sammy Davis, Jr. (Reprise)-17 (17)
39 35 UNDERSTAND YOUR MAN –•– Johnny Cash (Columbia)-7 (35)
40 46 MY HEART CRIES FOR YOU –•– Ray Charles (ABC-Paramount)-5 (40)

THIS WEEK’S DROPS

45 39 BABY, DON’T YOU CRY (The New Swingova Rhythm) –•– Ray Charles (ABC-Paramount)-6 (39)
47 27 WHO DO YOU LOVE –•– The Sapphires (Swan)-12 (25)
48 37 WORRIED GUY –•– Johnny Tillotson (MGM)-6 (37)
49 40 I WISH YOU LOVE –•– Gloria Lynne (Everest)-12 (28)

POWER PLAYS

Now this is weird, that top 40 song list is from March 28, 1964 and as I was looking through it I saw 'Penetration' by 'The Pyramids' at #28 and put it into YouTube and found a video from the Dick Clark Show (that's what we called it) of the band and as I was watching it I noticed this: American Bandstand. March 28, 1964. I remember this song from the Ventures. No Gibsons here.

 

[bobyoung53]

Before and after…

shape was off a bit so I had to reposition and drill all the holes again.

y’all know me, I hate to modify anything.

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I had to really fight with myself not to buy one of the bright cherry T-Birds in 2018, I had already bought an ebony, I still wish I had gotten it though.

 

[WillyW]

I had to really fight with myself not to buy one of the bright cherry T-Birds in 2018, I had already bought an ebony, I still wish I had gotten it though.

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I wasn’t playing base geetar when those came out, but I do know Gibson’s reputation for model availability from month to month, so when the NR’s came out and realized I really liked my Inverness green, I knew I had to have the burgundy too.

 

[bobyoung53]

I wasn’t playing base geetar when those came out, but I do know Gibson’s reputation for model availability from month to month, so when the NR’s came out and realized I really liked my Inverness green, I knew I had to have the burgundy too.

Yeah, I regret it now. My NR is Burgundy, beautiful color in person. Gibson's finishes are really good. The ebony T-Bird is also a shiny finish and it looks like it's deep when you look at it almost like you can see down into it.

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

The gen1 T-birds only used black on the center 'island' on the hs face. The 'bursts' were translucent tobacco - a dark brown. It would appear that the gen2 NR T-birds might have used black on the whole hs front & back or a much more concentrated tobacco. (more opaque) Some tobacco looks black but in bright sunlight you'll see it is very dark brown, and it can be applied less concentrated (lighter transparency) or more densely. (very dark nearly black looking) Just depends on how it's cut. (amount of pigment to clear) No idea on dating approaches - the more recent SE IV I posted was finished unlike a gen1 so they just decided to do it like that.

This is the back of that SE I posted - looks black to me (not dark tobacco)
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Sprayers at guitar factory do interject an originality/personal touch in their finishes. For Fender, there are many varieties of a 3TSB, depending on the sprayer. They are all shooting the same three colours, but how the last tobacco burst is shot "strays" a bit from being exactly the same by each individual sprayer. (within reason of course)

I seriously don't think they would have sent out a bass with a repaired hs from the factory. If it was cracked or broken, they would have 86'd it. But along the line somewhere, a finisher at the factory might have sprayed the neck-joint as an aesthetic detail. Necks over the years have been sprayed in a variety of interesting ways.

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Compare the burst on this one compared tp the first pic (two different basses-same finish)
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got it, nicely explained, thx.

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

You could - and I'm sure it's been done to confirm 100% originality on a very pricey vintage (usually) guitar. https://guitars.com/value-vintage-instrument-appraisal-0

x-raying is pretty common hence inexpensive these days…

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

like buying an iPhone…

 

[WillyW]

Yeah, I regret it now. My NR is Burgundy, beautiful color in person. Gibson's finishes are really good. The ebony T-Bird is also a shiny finish and it looks like it's deep when you look at it almost like you can see down into it.

I had a black SG (SGS3) with gold hardware, and the finish was the most flawless I have ever witnessed.

When I first got it I was trying to figure out why there were two adjustment wheels on each side of the tuna-matic bridge, and it was just the reflection off the finish.

 

[Count Bassie]

Now this is weird, that top 40 song list is from March 28, 1964 and I was looking through it I saw 'Penetration' by 'The Pyramids' at #28 and put it into YouTube and found a video from the Dick Clark Show (that's what we called it) of the band and as I was watching it I noticed this: American Bandstand. March 28, 1964. I remember this song from the Ventures. No Gibsons here.

Hell yeah! My old Ska/Surf band, The Volcanic Skahunas used to do that tune, back in the 3rd Wave Ska days (mid-late 90s). We gave it some gas, of course, but yeah, that was fun to see. Thanks for posting it!