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Time to switch to Dunlop Super Brights!!!

#861
Toptube said:
Anyone have issues the past few months, with new super brights having a chorus-like tone issue?

I received a new Kiesel back in April (they use super brights). Every string had a very prominent chorus/harmonic effect in the tone. That bass went back for a host of reasons...

Fast forward and I put a new 4 string nickel set on my Carvin Icon, along with a stainless .130 B string. The B, E, and A all have the chorus problem.

I tried a set of the Mracus Miller stainless. All good there.

Another set of nickel and the E is really bad with this effect.

I have been using super brights on this bass for quite some time, now. This issue started this year.

I'm also disappointed to see that the D and G strings are still coming out of the packs with little kinks in them. I don't usually feel them when strung up at tension. But *** they should have fixed that by now. My MM steel set had the most kinks per string, I have yet experienced.
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Along with JimmyM's suggestion of checking pickup height I would also check these three things-

1. Make sure strings didn't get twisted on the install. Loosen sting enough that you can push the ball end out of contact with the bridge allowing it to untwist.

2. Make a witness point at the bridge AND the nut.

3. Check intonation. Honestly I don't think this would cause the chorus effect but for my personal sanity I'd have to check everything.

As far as the quality issues, any chance you got a new/old stock set from GC or something? Just a thought.
 
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#862
Nah guys, I'm very careful about installing strings and do all the best practices to avoid twisting.
And pickup heights are also something I am very conscious of.

As far as intonation: The E and D strings had to come forward a lot, compared to what they have been set at for months/years.

I received these strings from BSO, about a month ago. I almost always buy strings there. Occasionally I will use Amazon, if I need a set quickly.
 
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So, for basically my entire experience with Superbrights (which is several sets of nickel, two sets of steels, and one set of Marcus Miller steels): I have only had probably 2 packs which didn't have mini kinks in the high strings. and now I have been having this chorus/octave effect. So.....I am reluctantly switching to another brand for awhile.

I will probably settle on Fodera steels, because I have never had quality or tone issues. and those strings have a really positive feel for the action.

BUT

I'm gonna try one set of DR Pure Blues, first. They will be here friday. historically, I don't really like DR's tone for their other strings. but the Pure Blues seem like an attempt to address that.
 
#866
Finally got my set today! Nickel 45-105. I tried these with my MM SUB last year and loved the feel and tone, but the SUB setup didn't quite work with these for what I was going for.

Put them on my Jazz now. Ooooh maaaan. This is heaven. It's like my fingers are just melting over the fretboard and the tones are jumping out saying "it's all good man, it's cool, you with us now ya hear".
Absolute perfection. I had EB Slinky 45-100 before that which were ok, but this, this is something else.
Time to buy a bunch of packs!
LOVE THEM!
 
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#868
Toptube said:
Anyone have issues the past few months, with new super brights having a chorus-like tone issue?

I received a new Kiesel back in April (they use super brights). Every string had a very prominent chorus/harmonic effect in the tone. That bass went back for a host of reasons...

Fast forward and I put a new 4 string nickel set on my Carvin Icon, along with a stainless .130 B string. The B, E, and A all have the chorus problem.

I tried a set of the Mracus Miller stainless. All good there.

Another set of nickel and the E is really bad with this effect.

I have been using super brights on this bass for quite some time, now. This issue started this year.

I'm also disappointed to see that the D and G strings are still coming out of the packs with little kinks in them. I don't usually feel them when strung up at tension. But *** they should have fixed that by now. My MM steel set had the most kinks per string, I have yet experienced.
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Hey Toptube,

When the Super Brights came into the limelight and BSO had fantastic prices on them, I ordered three sets and put them on all three of my basses - one being my Carvin LB70. No kinks or chorus effect that I recall, but I was not crazy about the strings overall. I soon switched back to my Ken Smith NPS Burners.

I have an Aries bass due any time now, and have a set of Smith strings waiting to go on it. But figured I'd give the default Dunlops one more try first.
 
#869
Is it normal that I had to move the string saddles quite a bit closer to the neck for these to intonate right? G is where it was with EB Slinkies but E, A and D I had to move quite a bit. E still shows slightly flat on the 12th fret.
 
#871
IMO, these are the rounds to have, unless you are looking for a specific type of growl that only Roto 66s or DR LoRiders can deliver. And you can't beat the price either!

But as many have noted, the name is an obstacle. I'd have called them something else. Vulture rounds, Buzzard Rounds, Pterodactyl Rounds, Seismic Rounds, Canyon Gorging Rounds.....
 
#872
mouthmw said:
Is it normal that I had to move the string saddles quite a bit closer to the neck for these to intonate right? G is where it was with EB Slinkies but E, A and D I had to move quite a bit. E still shows slightly flat on the 12th fret.
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Of course. All different strings will make you have to move your saddles.
 
#873
JimmyM said:
Of course. All different strings will make you have to move your saddles.
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Alrighty, just looks slightly weird to me with saddles having sort of a U shape (E saddle closer to the neck (about in line with the G saddle), A and D saddles slightly further from the neck). I always had the E saddle furthest and then every next one slightly closer to the neck, sloped.
 
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#874
How does this bridge saddle position look?
Managed to get the intonation pretty much spot on (had to take the E string from my last year's pack though, the new one kept being flat on the 12th fret :( ).
Not as sloped as it usually is with other strings.

1_superbright.JPG 2_superbright.JPG

Still really digging the strings feel and tone wise. If I'll have further intonation problems, I might have to switch to DR Sunbeams though. Would be a shame really.
 
#875
mouthmw said:
How does this bridge saddle position look?
Managed to get the intonation pretty much spot on (had to take the E string from my last year's pack though, the new one kept being flat on the 12th fret :( ).
Not as sloped as it usually is with other strings.

View attachment 2771280 View attachment 2771281

Still really digging the strings feel and tone wise. If I'll have further intonation problems, I might have to switch to DR Sunbeams though. Would be a shame really.
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Personally, I never pay much attention to where the saddles line up, as long as they intonate. And even different strings from the same manufacturer will require a little tweaking, no matter how consistent they are. I had intonation issues from some of the first sets of these strings I got, but I've gone through about 6 or 7 sets since then and haven't had any.
 
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#876
JimmyM said:
Personally, I never pay much attention to where the saddles line up, as long as they intonate. And even different strings from the same manufacturer will require a little tweaking, no matter how consistent they are. I had intonation issues from some of the first sets of these strings I got, but I've gone through about 6 or 7 sets since then and haven't had any.
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Yea, as long as they intonate. I already have another pack on the way anyways lol. Last band practice, my jazz had an incredible tone. Heck even my drummer said after a few bars of just us jamming: "holy crap, your bass sounds amazing". Sure, it's not ALL strings, but hey xD They certainly brought in some of that crunch!
 
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JimmyM said:
Personally, I never pay much attention to where the saddles line up, as long as they intonate. And even different strings from the same manufacturer will require a little tweaking, no matter how consistent they are. I had intonation issues from some of the first sets of these strings I got, but I've gone through about 6 or 7 sets since then and haven't had any.
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This. Here's a pic of my bridge, intonated w/ Dunlops.
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