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TL-606 owners unite
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I built a pair of these. Great cabs with the 3015 full range driver. I made the port a bit bigger, 3" instead of 2".
The internal bracing is a bit redundant if you have better joinery methods. I think the original plan was that a guy with a drill could put them together. If you have good glue, clamps and a staple gun you could do it better. I used biscuits.
I really liked this set up. I'd put them up against pricey high end 1-15's anyday.
Then the fEarful's won me over.
If you are a DIY guy there's always something else to build, that's the fun part.
Sold one 606 yesterday and might have the other sold as well.
The internal bracing is a bit redundant if you have better joinery methods. I think the original plan was that a guy with a drill could put them together. If you have good glue, clamps and a staple gun you could do it better. I used biscuits.
I really liked this set up. I'd put them up against pricey high end 1-15's anyday.
Then the fEarful's won me over.
If you are a DIY guy there's always something else to build, that's the fun part.
Sold one 606 yesterday and might have the other sold as well.
svtb15
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The one I picked up yesterday has a Kilomax in it. Ultimately I want to put in the 3015 and sell off the Kilomax but I'll probably play it as is for a little longer. The consensus seems to be the 3015 and I sure wouldn't mind dropping 12 0r 13 pounds off the cab.
svtb15
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thank you for the chart... but im not clear what they mean by step down mode.... is that electronic EQ? or does it have to do with the porting.. i am not familiar with the terminology.. sorry...
Passinwind
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When you block part of the port you are in step down mode.
The EQ reference is to how you make up for the low end loss that step down mode entails. You couldn't get away with using that much low end boost in normal mode, because the speaker "unloads" rapidly on notes below the tuning frequency. Make sense?
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ok.. thank you.. that makes sense.. got it now..
quote=Passinwind;10701990]When you block part of the port you are in step down mode.
The EQ reference is to how you make up for the low end loss that step down mode entails. You couldn't get away with using that much low end boost in normal mode, because the speaker "unloads" rapidly on notes below the tuning frequency. Make sense?[/quote]
quote=Passinwind;10701990]When you block part of the port you are in step down mode.
The EQ reference is to how you make up for the low end loss that step down mode entails. You couldn't get away with using that much low end boost in normal mode, because the speaker "unloads" rapidly on notes below the tuning frequency. Make sense?[/quote]
I just A-B'd the cabs with and without the port cover. My anecdotal ear prefers them without. I am amazed I still have G.A.S. Never satisfied.
This thing is awesome.
This thing is awesome.
the center of the port covered is the lower mode. Think like a flute or sax. The more holes you cover the lower it goes.
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One more stupid question.. if you were to cover the two outside ports and leave the middle one open.. Would it go even lower? Or will that not rally make any difference.
I've always preferred mine with the port open; just sounded bigger.
Effeciency / volume wise, how does the 3015 compare to the EV driver?
Effeciency / volume wise, how does the 3015 compare to the EV driver?
svtb15 said:
That is a good question actually. The thing about these step down modes is that they are designed around the EV 15" driver of the time which was not very strong in the lower octaves. So you had to use eq.
I've just come into another pair of TL606's. center port covered. they were used as PA cabs. they are empty.
just looked up the 3015's & they jumped in price from $172 to $296 each!!!!
any other speaker recommendations for the TL606? the only consensus I can find here is the 3015 but that price jump just took them out of my price range.
neo's are not necessary.
just looked up the 3015's & they jumped in price from $172 to $296 each!!!!
any other speaker recommendations for the TL606? the only consensus I can find here is the 3015 but that price jump just took them out of my price range.
neo's are not necessary.
May be the Delta Pro 15A ... I used one in a 606 type cab and giged with it for about a year with no issues ... it sounded pretty good ...IMHO
I've got a very sweet set of Altec 421A's in a pair I built a few years ago with a bud, to replace a pair of 606's I had built for me back in '79 by the late Great American Music Co. in Urbana-Champaign IL I found out years ago that while the 421A's did not have the most power handling or capable of reaching very low freqs, it provided a nice round and snappy rump to my two 4x10's.
Since the old band bus caught on fire and toasted my original 606's, I wanted the exact same set. My boneheaded guitarist tossed out my original 421A because he couldn't imagine they would still be good (and they really smelled like hell), I did have to hunt for a really nice set of 421A's that had been re-coned. Re-coned because I would have blasted the original cones in no time anyway. So I picked up a pair from e-bay for about $150 shipped. I then got my 606 plans from EV and bought some nice void-less birch 16 ply from a local lumber yard, some 1x2 and 2x2 stock and away we went. Tough thing got to be, the grain on th wood I had bought was so sweet that I hated to carpet or paint them. So I did a real light black stain an rubbed it in real hard to basically make the grain pop, and yet offer enough of a dark finish to keep the cabs from showing dirt, etc. I then layed on oh, maybe about 8 layer of poly and buffed the crap out of them so they have a really nice furniture type finish. Sealed the crud out of the inside of th box, put the port cover on and tacked a little 4" faceless insulation inside. These actually sound better than my originals and look amazing. Next project is to build a pair of 4x10's and a pair of 2x10 boxes for the various gigs and rehearsal situations.
For Rock gigs, I use the whole rig in a bi-amped mode. For my country group I like to use just a 4x10 and a 1x15 in a full range mode as my 5 just seems to respond nicer in full range. I'd like at least on 2x10 since some of the country gigs are less demanding volume wise and as well it would make for a better practice rig.
I'm sold on th 606 box.
Since the old band bus caught on fire and toasted my original 606's, I wanted the exact same set. My boneheaded guitarist tossed out my original 421A because he couldn't imagine they would still be good (and they really smelled like hell), I did have to hunt for a really nice set of 421A's that had been re-coned. Re-coned because I would have blasted the original cones in no time anyway. So I picked up a pair from e-bay for about $150 shipped. I then got my 606 plans from EV and bought some nice void-less birch 16 ply from a local lumber yard, some 1x2 and 2x2 stock and away we went. Tough thing got to be, the grain on th wood I had bought was so sweet that I hated to carpet or paint them. So I did a real light black stain an rubbed it in real hard to basically make the grain pop, and yet offer enough of a dark finish to keep the cabs from showing dirt, etc. I then layed on oh, maybe about 8 layer of poly and buffed the crap out of them so they have a really nice furniture type finish. Sealed the crud out of the inside of th box, put the port cover on and tacked a little 4" faceless insulation inside. These actually sound better than my originals and look amazing. Next project is to build a pair of 4x10's and a pair of 2x10 boxes for the various gigs and rehearsal situations.
For Rock gigs, I use the whole rig in a bi-amped mode. For my country group I like to use just a 4x10 and a 1x15 in a full range mode as my 5 just seems to respond nicer in full range. I'd like at least on 2x10 since some of the country gigs are less demanding volume wise and as well it would make for a better practice rig.
I'm sold on th 606 box.
