TOO HEAVY, URGENT!!!!cabz

[Tomass]

You should check out Mark Bass gear if you can, but if you can't there are other light weight options. You said you were from Australia, much like myself, just check out www.basscentre.com.au if you havent already. Plus I seriously dont think that cabs are that heavy, its because of the awkward size that makes them difficult to carry. We installed casters onto my cab and it was a life saver.

 

[Freddels]

Eh ... we used ta walk to gigs, 10 miles, up hill both ways, through 3 feet of snow, carrying Ampeg 8x10's on our back ... ya lazy little whippersnaper!

Sorry, but most of the posts here just remind me of all the stories my granddad used to tell about how life was so much harder in his day, and his generation so much tougher ...

Cheers

or be disabled at 50.

 

[JonathanD]

I don't know what everyone else said but HOW you pick it up matters.

#1, get casters.
#2, If you have stairs learn the "roll it up and slide it down technique" Roll it up = tilt it over until the side facing you is resting on the next step ... then use your LEGS not your back. Bend at the knees and tilt the side facing you till its resting one or 2 steps up.

Also, when lifting, Rest it on your hip and leg to get it into and out of cars/vans.

#3, Turn it so one handle is facing you and one handle is far away. (the side of the cab). Then reach over the cab(I use right hand to reach over) grab the handle, put other hand on side being tilted towards you, and lean the cab back onto the leg on the same side as your hand going over.

Its like the swing dance move where the girl jumps onto the guys leg. Let your legs support the weight.

Or like I did, I got 4 210 cabs and I use a dolly to move them. Then I take each one off the dolly and walk with it light and manageable.

 

[JonathanD]

If you are going to bust someones balls about grammar and spelling maybe try and steer clear of the valley girl lingo mate!

Sorry, but I just have to let this out.
If you are going to do a post, at least spell out the words.
please don't be like "Man, U no what m syin cuz i'm all like gunna go down there and, lol."
NO

 

[toolfann615]

if all else fails you could always just hit the weight room it seems that besides avatar all the lighter 410's are a lot more expensive, quality products, but expensive.

 

[Bryan316]

thanks shoot-r but im in aus! haha yeah im thinking maybe some wheels, but it is also quite large so i have difficulty even getting it in my perants 4 wheel drive !

So... your parents have a 4x4 that a single 410 cab can't fit in? Hmm... time to harass your parents and get some leverage on them.

"You need to clean your room!"
"You need to get a less-puny SUV!"




As for no wheels, I've posted a really good caster-installation picstory. Look it up, it's dead easy to do and not expensive at all.

 

[A9X]

if all else fails you could always just hit the weight room

I don't get this attitude: the OP said he has a knee injury so even if he bulked to Arnie proportions it wouldn't help much.

 

[SkaKing27]

www.avatarspeakers.com, fenderhutz good choice, cab and beer..seriously though, i've had mine for about two years and it sounds great and is easy on the back and knees.

 

[heath_r_91]

If you are going to bust someones balls about grammar and spelling maybe try and steer clear of the valley girl lingo mate!

I wasn't really harping on him about using proper grammar, just to have the ideas be complete, and to at least attempt to have it spelled right.

 

[NKUSigEp]

ok i have a peavey tvx 410 wich is about 1 month old, i have played 2 gigs and many practises in this time which means alot of carting around, it has gotten to the point where this cab is inconvenient(mind my spelling:S) im 15 so its either my dad or a band mate helping move it and now its starting to be a problem, itsa going through a warwick profet 5.1 wich is also 1 month old,

i dont no if i should be cosidering a whole new rig, but im worried no1 will buy trhe cab due to its weight,

well anyway ive looked around (havent heard,) and whats catching my eye atm is the ampeg b410hlf-600watts at 4ohms and the swr workingpro 410-400 watts at 4 ohms,

so please help me out guyS!!!!!!!!!!!
URGENT!

I think more people would avoid buying it because it's a Peavey rather than how much it weighs. It's not a bad cabinet at all (maybe lacking in volume) but if you can't return it, be looking to take a hit on it as Peavey's resale value isn't that great.

As far as the weight issue is concerned, that's all part of the deal. Even guitarists and drummers have to put up with the weight if they want decent equipment. There's a lot of lightweight stuff that supposedly sounds great (I've never tried it) like Epifani, Schroeder, etc, but be prepared to saw off an arm and a leg to pay for it.

 

[Lia_G]

Once again, for folks who keep recommending Avatar ... he's in Australia, and Avatar won't ship there!!!

Cheers

 

[Hoover]

I can't belive it. Your 15 years old. At that age, I was trying all I could do to get my first 810 cab. Man , if your givin' up on haulin' equipment at your age, you might as well throw in the towel now. What would you do if you had to haul the PA system too? For years I owned and maintained the step van, built and hauled most all the PA system, plus hauled my 810 cab, and all my gear. I don't wanna' hear any whining, just because one cab is too heavy for you. I didn't stop hauling an 810 till I was disabled, at 50 years old. Now I haul two 410 cabs instead. Yeah I'm fat, and I sweat like a pig while doing it, but I love it enough to keep doing it. If I die from a heart attack while doing it, at least I'll die with a smile on my face. Come on Kid, get with the program here. Nothing comes easy, it all takes hard work.

+10,000,000!

fwiw, when I was 15 years old I had a Fender Dual Showman loaded with a pair of JBL 15" drivers. That speaker cabinet was 60" tall and nearly 40" wide. And my Mom's car was a 1970 Volkswagen Beetle. Let me tell you, if there is an exercise on this planet more challenging both physically and intellectually than squeezing a Dual Showman into -- and subsequently, out of -- a VW Beetle, I'll eat my hat. It was PURE TORTURE

...and I enjoyed that torture for years! That's what being a teenage wannabe rock star is all about!


Note: Many years have passed since then, and I am now perilously close to Old Fart-dom. I have recently rebuilt my rig from the ground up expressly for the purpose of light weight & ease of portability (though without sacrificing sound quality, natch...one thing years of experience has given me is an annoyingly high set of standards, if not the chops to back them up!). The OP might be interested in my current cabinets: Flite Sound.

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I can literally walk down the street carrying a pair of speaker cabinets in my hands (one in each). I've won bets in bars and studios by lifting my 1x15" cabinet off the ground using only my pinkie finger. And it sounds freakin' killer!

 

[B!56]

then use your LEGS not your back. Bend at the knees and tilt the side facing you till its resting one or 2 steps up.

if you didnt hear,
i cant use my knees for lifting

ok, I do live in AUSTRALIA so avator is not available but thanks any way

my knees are screwed so dont care if you have done it hard when you were a teenager you obvisouly were not crippled, you dont understand how hard it is to lift stuff with my knees,

thanks again for all the people who werent winging about how tough they have done it,

alot of your suggestions have been helpful

 

[Hawaii Islander]

if you didnt hear,
i cant use my knees for lifting

ok, I do live in AUSTRALIA so avator is not available but thanks any way

my knees are screwed so dont care if you have done it hard when you were a teenager you obvisouly were not crippled, you dont understand how hard it is to lift stuff with my knees,

thanks again for all the people who werent winging about how tough they have done it,

alot of your suggestions have been helpful

Maybe you could edit your fisrt post to let members know that you have arthritis in your knees (BTW: sorry to hear that. I have relatives with servere arthritis in the knees and hips) They probably didn't see the post where you mentioned it.

Anyway, good luck with your search for a solution. Let us know what you come up with!

 

[gjsven]

Seriously how much could casters cost to be put on? You've got to lift it exactly twice loading in...and twice coming out...assuming the stage is elevated.

Come on dude, moving heavy cabs is part of the deal when you play bass...until you write a song that's played on the radio everyday and then you have someone who will carry your gear for you!

+1. As one Australian punk (who used to cart a rig with a total weight of 110kg around the country in the back of a Forester, now it's down to a more 'sensible' 80kg after I injured my back in a car accident earlier this year) to another - harden the xxxx up! (as Ronnie Johns would say )

Definitely spend $20 at Bunnings to get some solid casters for it (this is essential), and share the load with your band mates - help them however you can with their gear, get them to help you with yours. Putting in the effort to work these things out before the gig will make everything run more smoothly and prevent you from getting injured.

To save your knees, perhaps you could build a makeshift ramp and 'ratchet-strap winch' to get it in and out of the back of the 4WD, or buy something ready-made from Supercheap Auto or wherever. Don't be afraid to put wheels on other parts of the cabinet to make this work - in my old setup I ran two 4x10s, one on top of the other. I couldn't put wheels on the bottom of the top cab so I put them on the back and just tilted it over when it was time to wheel it.

In short - every cabinet will be heavy and awkward when you have a disability such as yours (with the possible exception of Markbass ), and at 15 I'm guessing you don't really have the money to race out and buy new cabs in a hurry anyway. The solution to your problem will be to use some initiative and find ways to minimise the lifting. It may sound corny, but little projects like this can give you skills which will help you in all aspects of playing in bands (and life in general) and may get you out of trouble one day!

Good luck!