Trying Vegetarianism for a week or so

[Kaa]

I agree. Inside it is something I have known for years but would not admit and even fought. Anyone who says meat in a Western diet or the western diet in general is not harmful are not educated enough.

I am going as far from meat as I can. As of now I am doing a vegan diet and will adjust as needed and see how I feel and think as time goes on. Where this leads me who knows? Being a vegetarian is like allot of things in life that are a personal choice. If you want take time to be educated and informed great if not thats fine to but it's not up debate in my book.

I hope your chioice of food leads you to be able to get off any meds and, feel really healthy.

 

[bassbully]

I hope your chioice of food leads you to be able to get off any meds and, feel really healthy.

Thank You. I first want to also thank the Tber who posted about Forks over Knives doc that really opened my eyes. I should know better since I read and studied about nutrition. Three books by Dr. Andrew Weil helped me in my late 30's early 40's escape my food addictions and get in the best shape of my life.
But like all addictions it returned after an injury and messy divorce in my mid forties and led up to now. I take Crestor for high Clor ... it has been over 300. I take another med for chronic migraines disorder that led to TIA's and mini strokes about 6 -7 years ago...ugly time.I also take a pill Nexium for acid reflux.

I don't have to take Nexium hardly at all since I have changed my diet in a little over a month. I will have blood work done next month for clor levels and I'm excited for once to hear the results. Two of my bandmates are vegetarians one vegan one eats dairy and have been helping some. I don't know if I can do it for the long haul but anything I do like it will help. Even if I eat some fish or small amount meat/dairy here and there it will be a better. So far my weight is dropping, I powerwalk 3-5 times a week for 2-3 miles and my aches and pains in my feet and knees are going away. I get a rash sometimes in small places on my arms and chest (tanners rash) and it has not come back. I feel great.Time will tell where this experiment leads me, the future I pray is good health.

 

[Kaa]

Thank You. I first want to also thank the Tber who posted about Forks over Knives doc that really opened mmy eyes. I should know better since I read and studied about nutrition. Three books by Dr. Andrew Weil helped me in my late 30's early 40's escape my food addictions and get in the best shape of my life.
But like all addictions it returned after an injury and messy divorce in my mid forties and led up to now. I take Crestor for high Clor ... it has been over 300. I take another med for chronic migraines disorder that led to TIA's and mini strokes about 6 -7 years ago...ugly time.I also take a pill Nexium for acid reflux.

I don't have to take Nexium hardly at all since I have changed my diet in a little over a month. I will have blood work done next month for clor levels and I'm excited for once to hear the results. Two of my bandmates are vegetarians one vegan one eats dairy and have been helping some. I don't know if I can do it for the long haul but anything I do like it will help. Even if I eat some fish or small amount meat/dairy here and there it will be a better maybe I can do it? So far my weight is dropping, I powerwalk 3-5 times a week for 2-3 miles and my aches and pains in my feet and knees are going away. I get a rash sometimes in small places on my arms and chest (tanners rash) and it has not come back. I feel great.Time will tell where this experiment leads me, the future I pray is good health.

If you need anything (recipes, names of restaraunts, etc.) just PM me.

 

[MJ5150]

Hey buddy....do you have any recipes using Shirataki noodles?

-Mike

 

[Kaa]

Hey buddy....do you have any recipes using Shirataki noodles?

-Mike

Mike,

Not off the top of my head. I can look in some of my cookbooks when I get home tonight, if you want.

 

[MJ5150]

Not a big deal. We bought some over the weekend, so will be trying it out this week. It looks simple and straightforward as a noodle replacement for the other higher carb and gluten offerings.

-Mike

 

[Kaa]

Not a big deal. We bought some over the weekend, so will be trying it out this week. It looks simple and straightforward as a noodle replacement for the other higher carb and gluten offerings.

-Mike

rice noodle?

 

[Joe Nerve]

Hey buddy....do you have any recipes using Shirataki noodles?

-Mike

I can't get used to them there noodles. My best suggestion for anything you'd do with them in a recipe is take the recipe and swap out the shirataki noodles for quinoa.

When I did eat those noodles for a while, I boiled em for a couple of minutes, and then threw em back in the pot with some tomato sauce and stirred them up cooking them a bit more. I then threw in some sort of protein (seitan, tempeh, or one of the many meat substitutes) on top, and threw some steamed broccoli or broccoli-rabe on top. Any vegetable would do. A little more sauce on top helps.

I have absolutely nothing to back this up, but something just seems plain wrong to me about those noodles. Haven't really read up on them. I don't think they have any nutritional value whatsoever, and the fact that they have no fat, carbs, calories or anything else going on spooks me. I can't believe that they're healthy for you in any way... but I don't really have a clue. Just a gut feeling. If anyone knows more about them fill me in, I might be willing to learn to like them.

 

[aborgman]

Ok, allowed may have been a better word, but said allowance is what has lead to such abuse, IMO.

Sorry, but "lead" connotes something much more than allowance - it connotes cause.

 

[aborgman]

While I agree that educating people would be probably the best way, some either adamantly refuse to be informed, reject the information, or just don't care.

How do we battle apathy and deliberate ignorance?

You don't, and you can't.

 

[aborgman]

I agree people should eat much more sanely that they do, myself included, but, instead of the lean meat, why not substute some legumes? Still get a good protein shot and avoid the baggage that the meat brings to the table?

Because they choose not to.

 

[aborgman]

I can't be as accepting because there are few, if any, environmental negatives with legume farming as opposed to factory farms.

Ummm... most legume farms (and farms of every other sort in the US) are factory farms.

We've got factory bean farms, factory corn farms, factory soybean farms, factory sugar beet farms, factory dairy farms, factory livestock farms...

 

[aborgman]

And to speak on the matter of "live and let live", I just find it funny that whenever there is a thread concerning vegetarianism, inevitably, someone comes along and states something to the effect of "we're supposed to eat meat, our evolutionary basis is founded on meat eating, etc."

I mean, its cool with me that others eat meat, but why is it when I provide my reasoning for not eating it, without imposing my views on anyone else or calling for regulation, that others feel the need to question or argue against them? What happened to "live and let live"?

Sorry, but pointing out evolutionary reality is in no way arguing against your vegetarianism - it's arguing about an incorrect view of the facts of evolutionary biology.

 

[aborgman]

I've yet to hear of a tofu factory filling an entire city with stench, and overloading the city's sewage handling infrastructure.

Merely a matter of scale.

You didn't used to hear a lot about Mac virii either - until their user base started getting out of the single digit percentages.

 

[Kaa]

I can't get used to them there noodles. My best suggestion for anything you'd do with them in a recipe is take the recipe and swap out the shirataki noodles for quinoa.

When I did eat those noodles for a while, I boiled em for a couple of minutes, and then threw em back in the pot with some tomato sauce and stirred them up cooking them a bit more. I then threw in some sort of protein (seitan, tempeh, or one of the many meat substitutes) on top, and threw some steamed broccoli or broccoli-rabe on top. Any vegetable would do. A little more sauce on top helps.

I have absolutely nothing to back this up, but something just seems plain wrong to me about those noodles. Haven't really read up on them. I don't think they have any nutritional value whatsoever, and the fact that they have no fat, carbs, calories or anything else going on spooks me. I can't believe that they're healthy for you in any way... but I don't really have a clue. Just a gut feeling. If anyone knows more about them fill me in, I might be willing to learn to like them.

Just read a blog where it said to spray a pan with cooking spray and cook them on high heat until they "whistle" when you move them in the pan. I guess this makes them not gelatinous?

I'm going to pick up a pack of these today and try them out.

 

[MJ5150]

I can't get used to them there noodles. My best suggestion for anything you'd do with them in a recipe is take the recipe and swap out the shirataki noodles for quinoa.

When I did eat those noodles for a while, I boiled em for a couple of minutes, and then threw em back in the pot with some tomato sauce and stirred them up cooking them a bit more. I then threw in some sort of protein (seitan, tempeh, or one of the many meat substitutes) on top, and threw some steamed broccoli or broccoli-rabe on top. Any vegetable would do. A little more sauce on top helps.

I have absolutely nothing to back this up, but something just seems plain wrong to me about those noodles. Haven't really read up on them. I don't think they have any nutritional value whatsoever, and the fact that they have no fat, carbs, calories or anything else going on spooks me. I can't believe that they're healthy for you in any way... but I don't really have a clue. Just a gut feeling. If anyone knows more about them fill me in, I might be willing to learn to like them.

I don't know anything about them myself. This week will be my first exposure to them. We were initially drawn to them for being gluten free.

-Mike

 

[DwaynieAD]

I like chicken. And that's all the argument I need.

 

[Mysterion]

...And to speak on the matter of "live and let live", I just find it funny that whenever there is a thread concerning vegetarianism, inevitably, someone comes along and states something to the effect of "we're supposed to eat meat, our evolutionary basis is founded on meat eating, etc."

I mean, its cool with me that others eat meat, but why is it when I provide my reasoning for not eating it, without imposing my views on anyone else or calling for regulation, that others feel the need to question or argue against them? What happened to "live and let live"?

Sorry, but pointing out evolutionary reality is in no way arguing against your vegetarianism - it's arguing about an incorrect view of the facts of evolutionary biology.

Please see my post #117 for a different perspective on the evolutionary considerations of vegetarianism.

 

[bassbully]

Vegan for 5 days...Yeah! So far so good. One big surprise is I'm not hungry at all. I would of thought from my past this amount of clean food would never hold me but I was wrong.
Most of my diet has been different vegetables, tempeh, pasta, Quinoa, beans and fruits. It's nice having my garden to get produce out of and the cooking and prep keeps me hopin. I fell in love with a fresh kale sald with onion and my home grown tomatoes...yeah Boy!

 

[boynamedsuse]

Good to hear that it was easy for you.