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Tube stack for arena rock band!
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Bahahahaha. That's too funny! Their guitar amps were Peaveys modded in some wild ways for moar power.
To the OP, a lot of the people on TB are all about small rigs that sound great mic'ed up and sent through the PA, forgive them. If you have the money and the desire to run 4 810 tube driven stacks, then go nuts. It's your money and your sound. I'm sure a rig like that would be quite something to behold. It says you live in Malibu, so I can't imagine that it would be too hard to go around to various music stores in L.A and try out various amps. I'm sure they would be more than happy to help someone looking to buy that much gear. If you want my opinion on what to get, select your top 4 choices and get one of each. Mic/DI out of the one that you like the most. If they don't sound good together, then turn some of them off. Or you could get four of the same and run two clean and two dirty.
Technology has come a long way. Nothing is as it seems. Id get a used mesa 400+ and a 4x10 and maybe another 2x10 and call it a day OR try one of the new switchable Mesa's and tell us all how it works out. The Foo bass uses Ashdown and loves it. I read just recently he went to all tube ashdown head, if you like his bass sound.
Really, from what the OP is talking about plus his attitude, could there be any other answer? How could someone who is obviously a major rocker play through anything but SVTs and a couple fridges? Anything else would be like riding a Honda to Sturgis.
How about a link to your band. If you are in the position to be playing arenas I'm sure someone on here would have heard of your band.
Having a less common tube amp myself, I would still back line an Ampeg SVT or Fender Super Bassman ( I've not played the fender yet so I'd try them both before I made my choice).
My reasoning for these two is the availability of them.
More than likely I'd choose the SVT. They are everywhere.
More importantly I want consistency. I'd know what I was getting and how to dial it in night after night.
I really need to get out and try a SB300. They have a SB100 at my local brick n mortar, its still in the back room boxed up.
Gonna have to push to get it on the floor.
Anyhow, that's how I'd roll, if it were me going out on tour.
I really don't think you can go wrong with the SVT or SB300.
WG.
My reasoning for these two is the availability of them.
More than likely I'd choose the SVT. They are everywhere.
More importantly I want consistency. I'd know what I was getting and how to dial it in night after night.
I really need to get out and try a SB300. They have a SB100 at my local brick n mortar, its still in the back room boxed up.
Gonna have to push to get it on the floor.
Anyhow, that's how I'd roll, if it were me going out on tour.
I really don't think you can go wrong with the SVT or SB300.
WG.
This right here:
That rig will set the OP back (roughly) $20,000
Since he plans on playing arenas...add another $5,000 for road cases and another $52,590 for the truck to haul them around in.
Oooops...forgot one very important thing.....paying the guys from the local IATSE to handle your babies with tender loving care....
I owe someone an apology, I found a link to the OP's band's video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTn7xtVsE6U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTn7xtVsE6U
times have changed. when i was starting out after a year or two of gigging you pretty much new how stuff worked and what was good gigging gear and what was not. i think now you dont have to pay dues, you can be on the tv one day and headlining the next(popstars etc) maybe this is the case here?
Agreed that it's certainly possible in today's world, but can it be the case here? Maybe. But I don't think it's likely considering how this thread has progressed.
If his band is really that big, he wouldn't even need to ask our opinions. And he'd have posted a link.
It reminds me of a recent discussion in regard to Paul McCartney using a new Mesa set-up on the Colbert Report, and someone mentioning that Sir Paul oftentimes doesn't even know the rig he's using he's so disinterested in the whole thing. His techs get him something, and he plays it without worrying about it.
Point being, if OP is selling out arenas, THEY HAVE PEOPLE WHO TAKE CARE OF THIS.
If his band is really that big, he wouldn't even need to ask our opinions. And he'd have posted a link.
It reminds me of a recent discussion in regard to Paul McCartney using a new Mesa set-up on the Colbert Report, and someone mentioning that Sir Paul oftentimes doesn't even know the rig he's using he's so disinterested in the whole thing. His techs get him something, and he plays it without worrying about it.
Point being, if OP is selling out arenas, THEY HAVE PEOPLE WHO TAKE CARE OF THIS.
DiabolusInMusic
Functionless Art is Merely Tolerated Vandalism
those acoustics are new? those look cool! thats what im thinking.. a wall of cabs and power
So Peavey is too lame to grace stages in 2013 but GC's house brand Acoustic stuff if right up your alley? Your criteria is confusing.
In regards to your stack, you want it to feedback? I can feedback my 410 no problem just throw some dirt in, without a pedal though I have never had feedback on my bass even with my old cranked SVT.
If I was in your shoes I probably wouldn't even be running a tube head, I am a big Fender and Ashdown fan though. I definitely wouldn't be running one 810 let alone 4 of them. If I had the massive budget your band must have I would rather have some open space on the stage and get some pyro going. So you don't want my opinion.
I am not going to ask you to reveal your band, I can respect you not wanting to say but how many roadies/trailers are you guys carting around? You must have a giant stage show to need 4 810 cabinets, even if they were just for image that is a lot. What does your guitar player run? 3-4 full stacks?
When I posted my noob question about a rig for an upcoming overseas tour,
I got lots of good answers, more than several opinions,
and from there could take that info/my experience/and some hand's on
to make a choice to send to the company who's picking up the tab for all that crap.
Never once had to call a fellow poster a jerk.
Were I the OP, I would go with one decent small(ish) amp, and get a sh*tload of cardboard cutouts to stand up proud and tall in the backline.
Just make sure they're braced or the wind'll blow over your 'wall of sound'.
I got lots of good answers, more than several opinions,
and from there could take that info/my experience/and some hand's on
to make a choice to send to the company who's picking up the tab for all that crap.
Never once had to call a fellow poster a jerk.
Were I the OP, I would go with one decent small(ish) amp, and get a sh*tload of cardboard cutouts to stand up proud and tall in the backline.
Just make sure they're braced or the wind'll blow over your 'wall of sound'.
OK - pet peeve. I'm sooo tired of hearing things like "it's all about the music, the music comes first, it's sooo shallow trying to prove something with all those stacks on stage' etc etc etc.
Go watch a broadway musical. Sure, you can sit in your living room and crank a bone chilling rendition of "Memories", but if you go see the play Cats, they BETTER be dressed up as cats, with makeup on, and stage props, etc etc.
Why should rock and roll be any different?? The reality is that it is NOT. The reality is that going to see an arena band and seeing tons of props on stage - from cool robotic lights to walls of stacks - it's all part of the show. Let's stop with this feigned "I'm too cool to be impressed with anything beyond the music" and get on with it.
The show must go on, right??
Go watch a broadway musical. Sure, you can sit in your living room and crank a bone chilling rendition of "Memories", but if you go see the play Cats, they BETTER be dressed up as cats, with makeup on, and stage props, etc etc.
Why should rock and roll be any different?? The reality is that it is NOT. The reality is that going to see an arena band and seeing tons of props on stage - from cool robotic lights to walls of stacks - it's all part of the show. Let's stop with this feigned "I'm too cool to be impressed with anything beyond the music" and get on with it.
The show must go on, right??
Actually the reality of going to see an arena show is unless you're the headliner you probably wouldn't have room for 4 bass cabs.
FWIW - those pics are of the new 360/361 and have nothing to do with GC (except for the name). They are built in PA by "Acoustic USA" and are updated models of the old ACC amps. Expensive as hell - $5,000 per.
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