U.S. Peavey Club

[Jaime Poole]

I was able to get the inserts removed and now it ready for new ones or a dowel repair! I’m not sure if the factory neck screws for a Foundation are shorter than the ones that come with the Fender neck plate? The original screws are long gone. Both fixes are a viable option as long as the 3/8 inserts from Ez Lock don’t do the same thing! I had taken the neck to Woodcraft to see what they had and the clerk inserted a t bar tool that broke off in the last insert and cracked the neck slightly that I was able to glue and is hardly noticeable. One of the other employees, a guitar builder called me the next day was sick about what happened and he offered to safety remove the last one and drill out the neck for dowels or the new inserts to be installed!

 

[nickpc]

These were the worst Cirrus ever produced and cost this much new, out of the box. Do not buy it!

That's very direct and simple to follow advice, and I will! Thank you!

 

[VS]

That's very direct and simple to follow advice, and I will! Thank you!

Of course! Are you looking for a U.S. Cirrus?

 

[Jaime Poole]

If you take a straight blade screw driver that the end is slightly smaller than the inside of the insert but the blade gets wider than the inside of the insert about a half inch up, then you can just stick the screwdriver in the insert and tap it in with a small hammer until it's good and snug and then just unscrew the insert with the screw driver.

If Plan A doesn't work you could mix up a bit of two part epoxy (or JB Weld) and then goop some all around on one of the screws, then slather the rest inside the insert and then screw the screw into the insert and let it set for a half day, and then unscrew the screw and the insert should unscrew with it.
Just make sure you don't get it on the wood of the neck and epoxy the insert in place.

 

[Jaime Poole]

If you take a straight blade screw driver that the end is slightly smaller than the inside of the insert but the blade gets wider than the inside of the insert about a half inch up, then you can just stick the screwdriver in the insert and tap it in with a small hammer until it's good and snug and then just unscrew the insert with the screw driver.

If Plan A doesn't work you could mix up a bit of two part epoxy (or JB Weld) and then goop some all around on one of the screws, then slather the rest inside the insert and then screw the screw into the insert and let it set for a half day, and then unscrew the screw and the insert should unscrew with it.
Just make sure you don't get it on the wood of the neck and epoxy the insert in place.

 

[Jaime Poole]

I was able to get the inserts removed and now it ready for new ones or a dowel repair! I’m not sure if the factory neck screws for a Foundation are shorter than the ones that come with the Fender neck plate? The original screws are long gone. Both fixes are a viable option as long as the 3/8 inserts from Ez Lock don’t do the same thing! I had taken the neck to Woodcraft to see what they had and the clerk inserted a t bar tool that broke off in the last insert and cracked the neck slightly that I was able to glue and is hardly noticeable. One of the other employees, a guitar builder called me the next day was sick about what happened and he offered to safety remove the last one and drill out the neck for dowels or the new inserts to be installed!

 

[nickpc]

Of course! Are you looking for a U.S. Cirrus?

Sort of. I went from looking at a Grind 5 BXP (which got me thinking about going to a 35" scale) to missing an early US Cirrus locally on CraigsList (which got me on the US Cirrus path), then I spotted this one at GC (which I'm now running away from).

I should probably just go with the Grind to see if the scale works for me before I invest too much, though. Or just play what I have (can we do that here at TB???)

 

[bigtone23]

Hey folks - I am sure some of you know the answer to this question - are the necks on the early Peavey's all similar, or is there variation across the t-20, t-45, t-40, patriot? My new acquisition is fueling serious collection GAS, and while I am not necessarily planning on pulling the trigger again immediately, I can fend off my bass buying lusts by building my understanding of the field.

It mostly boils down to the 1.5" or 1.75" nut width, and they may vary +/- .1" or so. Peavey used a machine that carved several necks at once from a master neck. It's mostly 1.75" nuts until the Foundation, 2nd Gen Patriot, Dyna and split coil Fury came about with 1.5". The T40 has 20 frets like a typical Fender, the rest 21.
There is somewhat of a consistency within an era, too. I have noticed that the profiles can shift a little bit, my 87 Patriot 1.5" neck had a thicker feel and more shoulder, and another 87 I tried was similar. When the 90s came about, some of the necks got thinner at the nut and in profile. My 93 Foundation was 1.4" at the nut and felt thinner in depth.
My 1.75"s: 83 T20, 85 Patriot, 82 T45 and even the 91 Dyna 5 have neck profiles that are all nearly identical, but that's because they are all early 80s versions. The Dyna 5 starts at the nut just like the others, but does widen a touch as it approaches the heel.
The 1.5"s on the rest are quite similar, but do have slight variance as they were born during a wider range of time, 84-94. These go through the early 1.5" era, the late 80s 1.5 and the early 90s 1.5", which all have little changes in the feel.

 

[VS]

Sort of. I went from looking at a Grind 5 BXP (which got me thinking about going to a 35" scale) to missing an early US Cirrus locally on CraigsList (which got me on the US Cirrus path), then I spotted this one at GC (which I'm now running away from).

I should probably just go with the Grind to see if the scale works for me before I invest too much, though. Or just play what I have (can we do that here at TB???)

Sounds like a great excuse to go to Guitar Center and check out some 35" scales to see how they fit you. I always find something fun to play with there.

 

[MNAirHead]

...similarly to alder for weight, hardness and "sound" if one believes in tonewood.

My most predictable tonewood is carbon fiber

Hey folks - I am sure some of you know the answer to this question - are the necks on the early Peavey's all similar, or is there variation across the t-20, t-45, t-40, patriot?

there were mutliple neck "feels" most notably fury and patriot

 

[Gully Foyle]

It mostly boils down to the 1.5" or 1.75" nut width, and they may vary +/- .1" or so. Peavey used a machine that carved several necks at once from a master neck. It's mostly 1.75" nuts until the Foundation, 2nd Gen Patriot, Dyna and split coil Fury came about with 1.5". The T40 has 20 frets like a typical Fender, the rest 21.
There is somewhat of a consistency within an era, too. I have noticed that the profiles can shift a little bit, my 87 Patriot 1.5" neck had a thicker feel and more shoulder, and another 87 I tried was similar. When the 90s came about, some of the necks got thinner at the nut and in profile. My 93 Foundation was 1.4" at the nut and felt thinner in depth.
My 1.75"s: 83 T20, 85 Patriot, 82 T45 and even the 91 Dyna 5 have neck profiles that are all nearly identical, but that's because they are all early 80s versions. The Dyna 5 starts at the nut just like the others, but does widen a touch as it approaches the heel.
The 1.5"s on the rest are quite similar, but do have slight variance as they were born during a wider range of time, 84-94. These go through the early 1.5" era, the late 80s 1.5 and the early 90s 1.5", which all have little changes in the feel.

Many thanks - definitely helps me narrow my interests - sounds like 85 and earlier for me for me.

 

[Runnerman]

Sort of. I went from looking at a Grind 5 BXP (which got me thinking about going to a 35" scale) to missing an early US Cirrus locally on CraigsList (which got me on the US Cirrus path), then I spotted this one at GC (which I'm now running away from).

I should probably just go with the Grind to see if the scale works for me before I invest too much, though. Or just play what I have (can we do that here at TB???)

I think that's a good idea. I went ahead and bought my Millennium thinking I could make an easy switch to 35 scale but that 1" really bugged me for some reason. I know many have no problem at all but I could never get used to it.... all my other basses are 34. It's one of the reasons I sold it.

 

[PeaveyPlayer]

I think that's a good idea. I went ahead and bought my Millennium thinking I could make an easy switch to 35 scale but that 1" really bugged me for some reason. I know many have no problem at all but I could never get used to it.... all my other basses are 34. It's one of the reasons I sold it.

It’s funny
I only started playing bass about 9 years ago

my first bass was a yamaha RBX 170

but my is a drummer and had/has so much gear
So he already had a trb 1005 and a cirrus 4 U.S.A. tiger eye

Never took them to school lol until I was older but I grew up on 35 inch! tbh it’s more natural for me

except my b quad 5 mutt. It seems a bit more of a reach oddly enough maybe maybe body I have it mounted on

 

[58kites]

I was able to get the inserts removed and now it ready for new ones or a dowel repair! I’m not sure if the factory neck screws for a Foundation are shorter than the ones that come with the Fender neck plate? The original screws are long gone. Both fixes are a viable option as long as the 3/8 inserts from Ez Lock don’t do the same thing! I had taken the neck to Woodcraft to see what they had and the clerk inserted a t bar tool that broke off in the last insert and cracked the neck slightly that I was able to glue and is hardly noticeable. One of the other employees, a guitar builder called me the next day was sick about what happened and he offered to safety remove the last one and drill out the neck for dowels or the new inserts to be installed!

I think the ones from a Fender are the same size and will work.
I would ask him if he would be happier with dowels and a re-drill or putting in inserts.
If he has a preference I would go with that, if he doesn't have a preference I would go with whatever he will do for less money.
Very happy to find out this is going pretty well.

 

[ATLbassist]

No picture...like this one? This bass is one of my favorite players. The neck was shot so I had this foundation installed. This is the only peavey neck I've had to give up on.

I have read here of putting washers behind the TR nut to give it more life, I have never tried it myself.

Good luck, cheers!

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Just like that, except mine has an all-maple neck. Come to think of it, my '83 Foundy also had a bent neck that needed to be replaced. Goodwill basses... I'm a sucker for punishment.

EDIT: I haven't had a chance to use the nuts yet. I bought them over a month ago, but finding time to do it has been tricky. I did see a Patriot neck on eBay that might be interesting, as I love the feel of my 87 Patriot.

 

[Jaime Poole]

I think the ones from a Fender are the same size and will work.
I would ask him if he would be happier with dowels and a re-drill or putting in inserts.
If he has a preference I would go with that, if he doesn't have a preference I would go with whatever he will do for less money.
Very happy to find out this is going pretty well.

 

[Jaime Poole]

Thanks for the info! I would like to try the ez lok inserts even though I had so much trouble getting these out! I’m sure if they don’t work I can send them back as Amazon seems to be the only place to get them and Grainger comes up in a search nearby but no clarification that they are in stock. It’s my bass and I would like to get it back on the road and see how it plays and sounds before I decide to keep it or sell it. I do have an interested party in it if I do, he wants to trade me another foundation just like one of the ones I have already that I wouldn’t mind putting a set of flatwounds on.

 

[Gully Foyle]

Anyone played one of the Peavey Sarzo models? Was that US made? They are gorgeous looking instruments. What's the neck like?

 

[XsoGol]

Anyone played one of the Peavey Sarzo models? Was that US made? They are gorgeous looking instruments. What's the neck like?

I have one of the Koa Sarzo basses...I had it modded it with a 32" neck (see the Rudy K. Garzo bass in my sig). The original neck was broad (wide nut) and flat/shallow on the bottom. I particularly hated that profile but I know plenty of folks on here that would disagree and love that profile.

 

[Gully Foyle]

I have one of the Koa Sarzo basses...I had it modded it with a 32" neck (see the Rudy K. Garzo bass in my sig). The original neck was broad (wide nut) and flat/shallow on the bottom. I particularly hated that profile but I know plenty of folks on here that would disagree and love that profile.

Nice! I hadn't seen the Koa, I had happened to see the red one, with the 'eye' for lack of a better term, fretboard inlays.