Unprofessional Refinishes - Drip Patterns & Burn Marks

[JakeAndAirwaves]

Tom DeLonge has some cool finishes on his guitars. You can obviously tell he did them quick and unprofessionally. I think there's an artistic vibe to it, especially that white one.

How would I go about getting that drip? And burning the guitar, that sounds like you need to be careful. I won't be doing anything like this to any fancy Gibson like Tom has done, but I want to try something like this.

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This one is more the burnt aspect of it.

 

[Smilodon]

What's up with the Freemason symbol?


Anyway, the drip is easy. Just hang the guitar in the orientation you want the drip, fill a syringe with paint and SLOWLY apply paint to the point where you want the paint drip to start. Let gravity do the rest. Just remember that paint is usually very thick and will run very slowly for a good while (Depending on the type of paint). ((EDIT: Those drips may have been made with a spray can. To do that you simply spray for a few seconds at the same point until the paint starts running))

The burn marks can be made using a hot air gun. You could use a torch, but a hot hair gun is way safer and more controllable. to do this properly the finish coat should be stripped off before burning. applying a new finish afterwards is also a good idea. You should also remove any plastic parts as they will melt before the wood will alter color.

In both cases, do tests on wood scraps first.

 

[JakeAndAirwaves]

What's up with the Freemason symbol?


Anyway, the drip is easy. Just hang the guitar in the orientation you want the drip, fill a syringe with paint and SLOWLY apply paint to the point where you want the paint drip to start. Let gravity do the rest. Just remember that paint is usually very thick and will run very slowly for a good while (Depending on the type of paint). ((EDIT: Those drips may have been made with a spray can. To do that you simply spray for a few seconds at the same point until the paint starts running))

The burn marks can be made using a hot air gun. You could use a torch, but a hot hair gun is way safer and more controllable. to do this properly the finish coat should be stripped off before burning. applying a new finish afterwards is also a good idea. You should also remove any plastic parts as they will melt before the wood will alter color.

In both cases, do tests on wood scraps first.

I've got no idea what his association with Freemasonry is.

And it doesn't look like he stripped the finish on the burns. The white one was burned after the drip was applied. Are you talking about removing the clear coat?

 

[kurosawa]

 

[JakeAndAirwaves]

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I haven't seen that picture before.

 

[Arthur Strand]

This work would devalue a classic instrument and I would not venture that far anyway. Being accustomed at one time to house painting as well as bass playing, I know that working with wood and blow torches takes care - I remember someone caught fire to a building once - not me. I had much experience with masonry paint as well. However, do take care with whichever tool you use to create the "burnt" effect. Please don't do it to a classic guitar though - use a cheapo copy.

 

[JakeAndAirwaves]

This work would devalue a classic instrument and I would not venture that far anyway. Being accustomed at one time to house painting as well as bass playing, I know that working with wood and blow torches takes care - I remember someone caught fire to a building once - not me. I had much experience with masonry paint as well. However, do take care with whichever tool you use to create the "burnt" effect. Please don't do it to a classic guitar though - use a cheapo copy.

Oh yeah. I've already chosen my old Squier strat or a semi-hollow SX guitar. I wouldn't do that to anything worth over a couple hundred dollars. This is just an experiment.

As for burning the house down, I don't plan to do it in the living room, I'll be in a safe spot away from any buildings.
Would it be easier to use a hot air gun or a torch?

 

[kurosawa]

I haven't seen that picture before.

Some Bros don't publicize it any more than family photos, like John Entwistle. You get tired of all this crap about how you're dominating the world financial system when you're having a hard time getting the lodge budget to stretch far enough to fix the lawn mower and enough Bros with time to come out every week to mow the lawn (if you can't wrap your head around this, compare the landscaping at the local bank with the local lodge crabgrass patch and you'll see what I mean). Tom's "Boomer Loves Boobies" charity is one of countless charities run by and contributed to by Freemasons, but he probably doesn't want any of the old-timers bitching about him saying "f*ck" so much in his ads, or auctioning off a cast of his wife's boobs, so that probably minimizes his desire to publicize his connection, too. It's enough that you have your Bros for moral support in getting through the bad times everyone goes through, which you don't generally publicize, either.

 

[Smilodon]

I've got no idea what his association with Freemasonry is.

And it doesn't look like he stripped the finish on the burns. The white one was burned after the drip was applied. Are you talking about removing the clear coat?

Sorry, On my monitor at work the last picture looked like wood that was burned. I see now that it's actually a discoloration of the paint. So no, no stripping required. Just be aware that the paint may get a bit gooey. After all, hot air guns are used for paint removal.

 

[jamestown94west]

here's a question for the fellow brothers, why is tom a member of a 3 letter lodge?

i realize you can join any lodge you want, but it seems odd he would be 3 letter and not 4 letter.

 

[JakeAndAirwaves]

here's a question for the fellow brothers, why is tom a member of a 3 letter lodge?

i realize you can join any lodge you want, but it seems odd he would be 3 letter and not 4 letter.

I don't really know a whole lot about Freemasonry. But I know Tom has the square and compass on his guitars and amps, when he plays live with Angels and Airwaves they all have it on their clothing. His Macbeth Footwear company sells shirts with it on them too.
(EDIT: If you look at the second picture you can see it on his pants. It's right under the lower cut of the guitar.)

So he's really into it. But he doesn't speak about it when he's questioned about it. It's always been a "we don't talk about that" response. That's why I was surprised to see that picture.

 

[JakeAndAirwaves]

Sorry, On my monitor at work the last picture looked like wood that was burned. I see now that it's actually a discoloration of the paint. So no, no stripping required. Just be aware that the paint may get a bit gooey. After all, hot air guns are used for paint removal.

I think that there actually is a slight scorch on them. Will the hot air gun do that as well as a torch? Also, what kind of torch are we talking about?

 

[skychief]

I have little respect for someone who defaces a beautiful musical instrument. Taking a blowtorch to a guitar is not artistic. Its destructive, and anyone who engages in this behaviour has issues and should seek professional counselling.


jk....

 

[jamestown94west]

I don't really know a whole lot about Freemasonry. But I know Tom has the square and compass on his guitars and amps, when he plays live with Angels and Airwaves they all have it on their clothing. His Macbeth Footwear company sells shirts with it on them too.

So he's really into it. But he doesn't speak about it when he's questioned about it. It's always been a "we don't talk about that" response. That's why I was surprised to see that picture.

Ill spill some beans on the masonry thing that the history channel, and Dan Brown both never touch on.

There's specific lodges for African Americans, and specific lodges for Caucasian Americans. Now, any race can join any lodge, and all lodges are trying to bury the ethnic divide and put it behind them.

But, as a fellow mason, seeing a picture of Tom at a 3 letter lodge, he looks out of place.

I have family in both lodges, so I hold no certain discretion over either lodge, or any ethnicity.

It just looks kinda funny is all

 

[JakeAndAirwaves]

I have little respect for someone who defaces a beautiful musical instrument. Taking a blowtorch to a guitar is not artistic. Its destructive, and anyone who engages in this behaviour has issues and should seek professional counselling.

jk....

Oh sorry. I guess I'll just put a tort guard and flats on it. That fixes everything and it's infinitely more artistic than having an instrument that's no longer a clone off the factory line.

Jk.....

 

[DiabolusInMusic]

That paint drip looks more like spray paint, you put it on thick so it runs, it lets people know you were serious about this bomb and spent some time on dropping it, This was no quickly whipped up piece. Let the toys know whose house this is.

That is what I see coming form a graffiti background, which I would see a once punk being into. I suppose a syringe would work too.

 

[JakeAndAirwaves]

That paint drip looks more like spray paint, you put it on thick so it runs, it lets people know you were serious about this bomb and spent some time on dropping it, This was no quickly whipped up piece. Let the toys know whose house this is.

Erm... what?

That is what I see coming form a graffiti background, which I would see a once punk being into. I suppose a syringe would work too.

Where would I find a syringe for this?

 

[J Posega]

You could get the kind of syringe you'd use for liquid oral medicine, seems like that would work.

For those bashing the style of decoration; if you don't like it, don't do it. I'd never paint the walls of my house white or cream, but I won't piss and moan if I'm over for dinner at a friends are there walls are white.

I believe his bomb/toys/house comment means that he spent time on the artistic aspect of the guitar, that it wasn't a random event, and that you're personalizing it to an extreme degree.

 

[JakeAndAirwaves]

You could get the kind of syringe you'd use for liquid oral medicine, seems like that would work.

For those bashing the style of decoration; if you don't like it, don't do it. I'd never paint the walls of my house white or cream, but I won't piss and moan if I'm over for dinner at a friends are there walls are white.

I believe his bomb/toys/house comment means that he spent time on the artistic aspect of the guitar, that it wasn't a random event, and that you're personalizing it to an extreme degree.

I figured that a normal medication syringe would work, but I wanted to make sure that there's not a specific paint syringe type thing.

There was no bashing. One was a warning not to ruin an expensive instrument if I screw it up. The other, well, I think he was kidding, however it was a pointless post. It's all good here!

Thanks for the translation, too.

 

[fraublugher]

I like some relic-ing sometimes , but...

Judging form the photos , the less you know the better.


I can't condone with a clear conscience the disposable micturate into the wind esthetic.

I'm not faulting you for your personal taste though , that would be rude.