Update to the G2220 saga

[BlueTalon]

I believe they're refunding $100 to current owners

The version earlier in the thread is that they're offering up to $100 worth of swag. Not really the same thing as a refund.

 

[Michael Stanley 2112]

The version earlier in the thread is that they're offering up to $100 worth of swag. Not really the same thing as a refund.

Yeah, $100 RETAIL is about $1.98 cost to them.

Someone before me said: Gimme some humbuckers. I'll go away.

 

[Nuage420]

The version earlier in the thread is that they're offering up to $100 worth of swag. Not really the same thing as a refund.

Yeah.... that's a big no for me

 

[Nuage420]

I didn't mean to imply that. Just wondering what other suggestions people had.

Not everyone can replace their own pickups, so shipping humbuckers that fit the cavities might work for some, but not all.

As a big corporation, they're surely just looking at the bottom line cost to make it go away. They know they have a loyal enough customer base that it won't affect sales very much... apart from this model.

If it's $100 bucks or a third the cost of the bass purchase I think that's a pretty significant apology. $100 in swag... not cool

 

[LBS-bass]

The version earlier in the thread is that they're offering up to $100 worth of swag. Not really the same thing as a refund.

I don't really want the swag. There's probably nothing they have that won't just be more clutter in an already too cluttered home. Ideally, fixing the problem would be best but that's an expensive solution their bean counters will not quickly approve.

 

[gln1955]

$100 cash money would be fair.

Any guesses how many of these they sold?

 

[Michael Stanley 2112]

92,846?

ETA: I figure: 10 years, about 10,000 units per year (or they wouldn't have made them for so long). Then, I took a little bit off for all the "cork-sniffers who would NEVER buy such a "cheap" bass.

 

[g-dude]

I believe they're refunding $100 to current owners

Yes, but it seems some people aren't happy with that plan.

$100 worth of accessories isn’t refunding $100 - not even close.

Really, they should have offered the choice of:

1) buy the bass back on a sliding scale based upon the age of the bass
2) provide humbuckers and cover installation cost
3) the aforementioned $100min accessories

 

[BlueTalon]

2) provide humbuckers and cover installation cost

If it was me, I'd be happy with just getting the correct pickups. But it's not me, and anyway I can only speak for myself.

 

[Asher Platts]

I mean, it’s an honest mistake, as Fender clearly placed an order for humbuckers nearly a decade ago and has never ordered in parts since.

Lolololol

 

[Asher Platts]

That video is the ultimate much ado about essentially nothing. Six minutes of self-congratulation with emphasis on the assumption that Fender made a dastardly and purposeful attempt to deceive their customers.



I'm not an apologist. I believe it was an honest production mistake that has been corrected. No more, no less. And I've never had a problem with Gretsch quality control.

Did anyone in this thread buy a Gretsch ONLY because it was supposed to be a humbucker pickup? If so and you're not happy with it, ask Fender to buy back the bass.

Personally, I am incredibly thankful for this video.

 

[Asher Platts]

If it's $100 bucks or a third the cost of the bass purchase I think that's a pretty significant apology. $100 in swag... not cool

And not $100 in humbuckers

 

[BadSanta1281]

From a bean counting perspective it doesn't make sense to do much more than what they're offering.

The bad publicity is already out there like the toothpaste out of the tube.

 

[Michael Stanley 2112]

From a bean counting perspective it doesn't make sense to do much more than what they're offering.

The bad publicity is already out there like the toothpaste out of the tube.

The bad publicity from the original "incident" is. To not "make good"? That's another PR nightmare.

 

[JKos]

The bad publicity is already out

And it won’t impact sales one iota. That’s my prediction.

 

[dronology]

I own a Gretsch G2210 Junior Jet Bass (serial CS11xxxxxx = made in 2011?) and a Gretsch G2220 Junior Jet Bass II Tobacco Sunburst (serial CYG20xxxxxx = made in 2020?) with Rotosound RS77S flatwound jazz strings. I am not an electronics expert but I will post more pics when I get a chance to remove the pickups. Will it help if I measure the pickup output? Meanwhile, I have wrote Gretsch/Fender. Thank you @LowEndLobster !

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I bought a magnet viewer for 5.5 euro.

Gretsch G2210

Gretsch G2220

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I hope this helps. Thank you!

 

[Asher Platts]

And it won’t impact sales one iota. That’s my prediction.

Well, I know that I won't be buying anything Gretsch/Fender again.

 

[BadSanta1281]

The bad publicity from the original "incident" is. To not "make good"? That's another PR nightmare.

I respectfully disagree. It's all one PR nightmare no matter what they do from here.

It would cost them ten million to "make good" at $100 per unit x 100,000 units.
They can claim to be "making good" with what they're offering now.

Doing the "right thing" won't trump profit and loss calculations for a corporation.

This will blow over and we'll be back to flats vs rounds and P vs J before you know it.

 

[Nuage420]

Well, I know that I won't be buying anything Gretsch/Fender again.

After owning a sandberg I couldn't let myself buy a fender again.

 

[Sid Fang]

Y'all do realize that the sound of the bass would be *very* different with tiny, cheap humbuckers instead of the tiny, cheap, single-coils, and you might in fact like it less?