Vinyl spinners club

[EricF]

Question for you guys regarding turntables, there's two turntable I could get used and I'd like your thoughts: Dual CS 450 and Yamaha YP66 (Canadian version of the Yamaha 211, difference being it has a rosewood board)

As long as both are in proper working order, either one would be a good choice. I'm a sucker for TTs with a rosewood deck, but the Dual brand has a great reputation.

Spend some time researching both tables and see if it helps clear the picture for you (the vinylengine and audiokarma forums are great resources for this kind of stuff).

 

[Ziltoid]

Here's the two add, thoughts?

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Not much info on either table on the web.

Don't pay attention to the prices in the adds, I'd talk them down. I already know the CS table can be brought down some.

 

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Here's my latest acquisition:

That is sick. I would be as psyched about that as I am about my Stones "Her Majesty's Satanic Request."

 

[EricF]

Here's the two add, thoughts?

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Not much info on either table on the web.

Don't pay attention to the prices in the adds, I'd talk them down. I already know the CS table can be brought down some.

I don't know, man. That's a tough choice. I'm a sucker for rosewood, but Dual has a pretty strong pedigree. Can you buy both and sell the one you like least?

 

[Ziltoid]

I'll probably buy the one I can get for less money

The Dual looks like a "better" table, but then again I'm perfectly fine with my roommate's table which is considered "craptastic plastic table" or something by the hifi community.

edit: The Yamaha is sold, I'll check what price I can get on the Dual.

edit2: Any cool places to buy records online?

 

[Ziltoid]

I think I made a rookie mistake, I bought the CS450, it's perfectly functional and all so I'm happy about that. But I did not realize it does not have a phono-pre built in, so now I need to buy that... dammit.

 

[EricF]

Rookie mistake, I bought the CS450, it's perfectly functional and all so I'm happy about that. But I did not realize it does not have a phono-pre built in, so now I need to buy that... dammit.

Decent-quality tables generally don't have a built-in phono pre (including both of the tables you were considering). You'll find built-in pres and USB outputs (which includes A/D conversion) at the lower end of the market.

 

[Ziltoid]

Decent-quality tables generally don't have a built-in phono pre (including both of the tables you were considering). You'll find built-in pres and USB outputs (which includes A/D conversion) at the lower end of the market.

I'm just bummed that I have to spend more money in order to use my table.

 

[EricF]

I'm just bummed that I have to spend more money in order to use my table.

As you said...rookie mistake

Check with your local thrift stores (Goodwill, Salvation Army, etc.) or Craigslist. There are often old receivers for cheap that include a phono section. This can be used as your preamp (phono in -> tape out -> your current audio system). When I first got back into vinyl a few years ago, I was using a '70s Pioneer receiver that I scored on eBay. The thing sounds pretty good. Although I've upgraded my system, my old Pioneer is still in use for my daughter's vinyl rig.

Here's my previous rig...

 

[Ziltoid]

As you said...rookie mistake

Check with your local thrift stores (Goodwill, Salvation Army, etc.). There are often old receivers that include a phono section. This can be used as your preamp (phono in -> tape out -> your current audio system)

Well I *can* use my table right now, it's just very very low volume haha.

I'll probably just buy the least expensive Pro-ject or Bellari, should set me back about 100$.

edit: I use a Pioneer VSX-D498

 

[EricF]

Well I *can* use my table right now, it's just very very low volume haha.

I'll probably just buy the least expensive Pro-ject or Bellari, should set me back about 100$.

The phono pre isn't just about boosting the signal, but also the RIAA EQ-curve that makes things sound the way they should.

 

[Ziltoid]

The phono pre isn't just about boosting the signal, but also the RIAA EQ-curve that makes things sound the way they should.

Good to know! I'm really a rook.

I might just get a Rolls (Bellari) Vp29 or something, they're about 50$ and seem quite okay.

edit: Your picture is awesome for so many reasons, the deco and beanbag mainly

 

[3l3phantstomp]

Well I *can* use my table right now, it's just very very low volume haha.

I'll probably just buy the least expensive Pro-ject or Bellari, should set me back about 100$.

edit: I use a Pioneer VSX-D498

You can do it for a lot less than that!!!

 

[EricF]

Good to know! I'm really a rook.

I might just get a Rolls Vp29 or something, they're about 50$ and seem quite okay.

I'm not familiar with that one, but I'm sure it will do the job to get you started.

 

[Alvaro Martín Gómez A.]

Decent-quality tables generally don't have a built-in phono pre (including both of the tables you were considering). You'll find built-in pres and USB outputs (which includes A/D conversion) at the lower end of the market.

Not necessarily, at least nowadays, Eric. Super-OEM turntables may not belong to the higher end of the market, but they aren't junk either. They are solid and reliable machines (and they have a built-in preamp).

 

[Spatial]

I either buy direct from a band I like(assuming they are having vinyl pressed) or use discogs:

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[Alvaro Martín Gómez A.]

I either buy direct from a band I like(assuming they are having vinyl pressed) or use discogs:

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Discogs is an awesome place, but so far I've just purchased one record there (and I'm waiting for it to arrive: An original pressing of Rage Against The Machine's debut album ). eBay has taken care of most of my vinyl needs.

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