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Want to replace individual stomps with mulit-effects

#182
clubdude said:
That was the one I was going to buy! LOL
Actually, I'll probably end up with a M9.

All things considered, that is the best deal I've found. Good price, 30-day trial, 4 payments. Congrats on your purchase.CD
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Sorry :hiding:
I got confirmation that they accepted my payment plan (my credit must be better than I thought! :D

Can't wait for the shipped notification. I have a pedal case that the 13 will fit in nicely. The 13 is overkill I am sure, but I also won't have any regrets if I got the 9 and wondered if it was the right thing to get.
 
#183
g&lplayer said:
Hey guys....so i finally got my M9 last night and thought I would share my initial experiences with you all as promised. Now I have tried and owned digital multi-effects before and I have to admit, this is the least digital sounding digital effect ive ever tried. To my surprise all of the modulation, reverb and delay effects responded just like their analog counterparts would.
1. The volume issue- I played with a passive jazz bass (my G&L JB-2) and actually it responded fine to me at full volume. You guys that had to find the sweet spot: were you using active electronics?
2. DELAY/REVERB: awesome! Particle reverb is a LOT of fun. Deciding which delay/reverb to use for my solos is going to take a while though. So many choices!! Again, I would have never noticed they are digital. Some of them are only very subtly different though. Had to use headphones to really hear the difference. But then again, I only have my combo at home. Once I try it in rehearsal with my cab it may sound different.
3. SYNTHS- The tracking on some of the synths seems to have a delay. I pluck the string and the sound comes out a bit later. Anyone else notice this? Seems like it will make it hard to use any of them in a band setting. Also, I was really looking forward to the slow filter sweep synth for an intro to one of my bands songs but Line 6 and me seem to have entirely different definitions of the word "SLOW". Also, all of the synths seem like the would sound awesome on guitar but are NOT at all tailored to those of us in the lower register. I was really hoping I wouldn't need a SYB-5 or another synth pedal in addition to the M9 but i dont know if these synths will cut it.
4. Expression pedal usage... Okay so i was really excited about this but it seems to be a bit of a pain to use one. For some reason I could never get the pedal to just adjust ONE parameter despite doing exactly what the directions said. Also the only way to "undo" your expression pedal settings is to unplug it and plug it into the unit again. I dont want to have to do that in the middle of the gig. I bought this so that i WOULDNT have to mess with nobs and plugs between songs....
5. Overall- seems like it was clearly made for guitar. A lot of the effects just dont sound good with bass. I have not actually used a real fuzz or distortion pedal before so I am not going to comment on that subject since I have no experience.
6. My bad luck- nothing relating to the pedal but of course the day I get this pedal my ampeg combo starts buzzing so much that you can barely hear the bass. Anyways, I'm just hoping i wont have to return the M9 and buy a new combo.
Lemme know if you guys have any other questions about any of the effects...
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I would say my experiences were similar. At first I was thinking that it was too much geared for guitarists and not enough for bass (keeping in mind that I still need to update the firmware) and I was a little disappointed.

But then I started concentrating on what I would use it mostly for: overdrive, chorus, funky filter, occasional compressor, and occasional octaver. The rest of the stuff is just a "bonus", I guess. I have found some really good settings that Im sure will sound great with the band. And, I already know its going to pay for itself in less stress with having to deal with a big board and cables running everywhere.
 
#184
Yea, i am definately going to give it a few more days but i'm already having second thoughts. I really wanted a quality delay, nice compression, chorus, phaser, and some synthy awesomeness. Problem is, im new to effects and this is more than I've ever paid for an effect. We used to have a guy with a modular synth and minimoog in our band but hes not with us anymore and I was hoping I could fill that gap with this thing. To be honest though, I'm just going to have to see how much I actually use it live.
I usually don't use effects just because I haven't owned any before these last couple of months, so it may be a little overkill for me. Also my bandmates may not like the idea of a bassist using effects (other than the occasional envelope filter). Also again, depending on how much it costs to repair my amp i may have to sell this to pay for it :bawl:
 
#185
g&lplayer said:
Hey guys....so i finally got my M9 last night and thought I would share my initial experiences with you all as promised. Now I have tried and owned digital multi-effects before and I have to admit, this is the least digital sounding digital effect ive ever tried. To my surprise all of the modulation, reverb and delay effects responded just like their analog counterparts would.
1. The volume issue- I played with a passive jazz bass (my G&L JB-2) and actually it responded fine to me at full volume. You guys that had to find the sweet spot: were you using active electronics?
2. DELAY/REVERB: awesome! Particle reverb is a LOT of fun. Deciding which delay/reverb to use for my solos is going to take a while though. So many choices!! Again, I would have never noticed they are digital. Some of them are only very subtly different though. Had to use headphones to really hear the difference. But then again, I only have my combo at home. Once I try it in rehearsal with my cab it may sound different.
3. SYNTHS- The tracking on some of the synths seems to have a delay. I pluck the string and the sound comes out a bit later. Anyone else notice this? Seems like it will make it hard to use any of them in a band setting. Also, I was really looking forward to the slow filter sweep synth for an intro to one of my bands songs but Line 6 and me seem to have entirely different definitions of the word "SLOW". Also, all of the synths seem like the would sound awesome on guitar but are NOT at all tailored to those of us in the lower register. I was really hoping I wouldn't need a SYB-5 or another synth pedal in addition to the M9 but i dont know if these synths will cut it.
4. Expression pedal usage... Okay so i was really excited about this but it seems to be a bit of a pain to use one. For some reason I could never get the pedal to just adjust ONE parameter despite doing exactly what the directions said. Also the only way to "undo" your expression pedal settings is to unplug it and plug it into the unit again. I dont want to have to do that in the middle of the gig. I bought this so that i WOULDNT have to mess with nobs and plugs between songs....
5. Overall- seems like it was clearly made for guitar. A lot of the effects just dont sound good with bass. I have not actually used a real fuzz or distortion pedal before so I am not going to comment on that subject since I have no experience.
6. My bad luck- nothing relating to the pedal but of course the day I get this pedal my ampeg combo starts buzzing so much that you can barely hear the bass. Anyways, I'm just hoping i wont have to return the M9 and buy a new combo.
Lemme know if you guys have any other questions about any of the effects...
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Volume is usually only an issue on filter, comp, slow volume, triggered filter and IMO some of the distortions have better response at lower input volume. There is plenty of headroom in the M# to handle a hot signal, it's just some of the effects don't sound as good without the volume dialed back, IMO. The triggered stuff doesn't trigger right with a boosted volume, either. One of my basses is passive, the other two are active, but they all usually like to be scaled back some. If you are liking yours at full volume then you're in good shape.

Synths have an attack setting that if you dial all the way down should result in instant attack.

You should be able to change the mode of your M9 to require you to save your changes to a scene rather than the auto save setting. This way your stuff comes back the same way you last saved it when you power it up. I can't remember how to do it, but it should be in the manual.
 
#186
audienceofone said:
The 13 is overkill I am sure, but I also won't have any regrets if I got the 9 and wondered if it was the right thing to get.
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Although that does depend on how much you want to carry around. I wish there was something like the M9 version of the GT-10B - same quality, smaller package... That's not a small piece if you're trying to put together a compact rig. But then again this is the effects forum, so I guess y'all are used to that :D :hiding:
 
#192
jgroh said:
I would say my experiences were similar. At first I was thinking that it was too much geared for guitarists and not enough for bass (keeping in mind that I still need to update the firmware) and I was a little disappointed.

But then I started concentrating on what I would use it mostly for: overdrive, chorus, funky filter, occasional compressor, and occasional octaver. The rest of the stuff is just a "bonus", I guess. I have found some really good settings that Im sure will sound great with the band. And, I already know its going to pay for itself in less stress with having to deal with a big board and cables running everywhere.
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From what I understand the 2.0 update really, really steps it up for bass. I know it has a bass octave in it. Personally, I would not think about giving up on it until I did the update. CD
 
#193
clubdude said:
From what I understand the 2.0 update really, really steps it up for bass. I know it has a bass octave in it. Personally, I would not think about giving up on it until I did the update. CD
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I have a MIDI cable on its way to me (thanks to your links :D) and I will update it as soon as it comes in. I should have that in a day or two and then I can make a better assessment. We did have an impromptu practice last night and I thought it sounded great. I still need to learn to save scenes but so far so good.
 
#194
jgroh said:
I have a MIDI cable on its way to me (thanks to your links :D) and I will update it as soon as it comes in. I should have that in a day or two and then I can make a better assessment. We did have an impromptu practice last night and I thought it sounded great. I still need to learn to save scenes but so far so good.
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Very cool. Glad the links were helpful. Can't wait 'til your report after the updates. CD
 
#197
Wow.. is all I can say. Your pedalboard looks just like mine, but with different effects. And my effects setup is nowhere near as complex. Mainly because I'm not into all that amp modeling. I've owned most of those amps you've mentioned, and if I had been in love with them, I would have kept them.:D I like my rig's sound clean, so all I want to do is keep it simple, and dial in certain effects to add to the guitar solos, enhance certain songs that might sound empty, and do some of the original effects on cover songs.... With the extra time not spent on effects, I'll practice to try to be a better player.

Very interesting stuff, though. Impressive.
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#200
gus1894 said:
So where are you at club dude? Used the M9 at practice, but did not yet for live, I had it set up, but ran into some other technical issues and it took a back seat. I will on the 7th. But even though I've found some settings for OD/fuzz, I am still going to use an independent fuzz pedal.
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Hey Gus,
I'm in eastern North Carolina, about halfway between Raleigh and the coast. And you?

So, you didn't like the fuzz/distortion, huh? I don't use much but a little overdrive with a Humphrey Audio "Badder Bass" Monkey, sometimes with octaver.

Hope it works out for ya.
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