do tell.....i wonder how much your
future prospects are helped by treating people like crap.....
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We got bumped for.....Pitbull?
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future prospects are helped by treating people like crap.....
jive1
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The music creates the image.
Do you think Metal guys would dress the way they do and go into mosh pits if Celine Dion were playing?
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jive1
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This one:
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No lie, the guy on the phone was laughing on the phone so hard when I ordered this he dropped it and I had to call again.
We have a place called Hoek's Death Metal Pizza. I still haven't been.
http://www.worstpizza.com/2009/03/hoeks-death-metal-pizza-austin/
http://www.worstpizza.com/2009/03/hoeks-death-metal-pizza-austin/
Theres nothing dead on that pie! That's not that metal.
Did it unleash Satan's wrath on your bowels upon consumption?
jive1
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The absurdity of this statement is astounding.
-you assume he is a socialist
-you imply that all canadians are socialists (fyi, the current party in power is the Conservative Party)
-you use the term 'socialist' as an insult
-you correlate socialism with a close-minded mentality
-you tag it with 'eh' because we all say that, amirite? just americans all say "yall" and carry handguns everywhere they go?
I have no idea the way your brain arrived at these conclusions, but I'd love to know what convoluted thought process was involved.
Now take everything he just said about metal. Think about it a bit.
Maybe now that you have thought about it a bit you will get the sarcasm that was intended in my post.
Oh, I don't know about that... (been there myself) -
And I agree with the guy who said "Metal is more about image than music" - it's the whole posturing/leather/faux tough guy-gal thing that seems so... adolescent. And this is coming from a guy who's first album purchase, at age 11, was Paranoid, back in 1972.
I don't mean to be rude man, and you are right on some accounts, but metal has really changed. It's not about that anymore. Well of course there are still bands like that, but there is more intelligent minded metal around nowadays.
Look, there are guys who are in Jazz who are "all about image", so there are guys who like music and guys who like "the vibe", ya know. I don't mean to slam all metal fans - that I don't like metal just means that *I* don't like it... but to me, the majority of it is like folks who ride Harleys. All image, all noise. And anger - - what's with all this anger? I *get* anger when you're a 14 year old guy - hell, I was 14 once and I was all full of piss and vinegar... but the whole "I'm a badass" thing is just goofy - at least to me.
When I was working at music stores in the '80s, I knew dudes who got all the demon/skull/chain tats you can imagine - all metal players - and most were really nice guys. So, once I got to know them, I'd ask - "what's with all the prison/mercenary ink?" - they's just shrug and say "it's cool!". Me, I like the occasional zombie movie too - but I ain't gonna get inked up about it!
Jive1 (if that is your real name
) I think that if you gave her a wardrobe change she would be indistinguishable from Marylin Manson..... and half of the fans wouldn't notice that the music had changed. I don't think only Jazz is mature, many other music is very thought provoking and enlightening. It's just that jazz guys are NOT about image (although without effort they personify just the image most are looking to emulate, think "Cool")
They are totally dedicated to the instrument, not to what they wear or how they peacock around. Jazz really is a music where image does't mean a thing if you can play well enough.
You could be a bass god and without a pointy enough bass the metal band won't have you. And if you outplay the guitard, same thing, won't have you.... So, in a way, musical skill can be a problem if you want to pursue metal.
The metal industry is just trying to pry dollars out of teenagers by giving them IMAGE. Music is just one tiny part of that image, the clothing, lifestyle and attitude are every bit as equal and sometimes more effort is put on those things than the music.
Sorry, I haven't seen anything in metal that is directed at a 40 year old who is interested in music theory.
-eSmith.
Almost all commercial music is about image. It's the reason untalented people like Miley Cyrus can sell records. All the teeny-boppers want to emulate her image. It's the same for metal-heads.
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Umm....I own a Harley V-Rod.
And A Honda ST-1300.
And a few other bikes through the years.
I'm bald.
I have earrings.
Tattoos.
I also love Jazz. And I also really dig some heavy stuff as well.
I also have done tours with, and like the current crop of new Country (ala' Keith Urban etc...)
So, what classification do I get from you?
jive1
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Jive1 (if that is your real name
I guarantee you that if Celine Dion dressed up all goth and started singing "My Heart Would Go On", not only would the fans notice the music has changed, they would boo and riot.
You mean the Jazz guys sporting a soul patch, ivy cap, blazer with a turtle neck are just doing that for practical purposes. Right........ And a kid wearing a Metallica shirt, blue mohawk, and a chain dangling from his nose who plays bass like Christian McBride would be welcome to sit in on a jam at the swanky martini bar in the swanky part of town too. Right..........
Unlike other forms of Rock music where you can get by on 3-4 chords, 4/4 time and the pentatonic scale, some Metal requires using modes like the Locrian and Phrygian, use odd meters, and has multiple riffs and parts in a song. Quite honestly, Metal when it is done right requires as much dexterity and music theory as Jazz. Lots of Metal has classical roots. But one place where the Metal guys take it up a notch is that they require more endurance. Even the easiest Metal passages get hard when you're playing it loud, at a fast tempo all night long.
You can say that about just about any type of music as well. Difference is that music like Jazz and Blues sell their image to adults. Don't think so? Go to an open Blues or Jazz open mic where you can see some accountant dressed up like a Beatnik spending $20 for a single malt scotch or a lawyer sporting a fedora playing a beat up guitar that he spent $5000 on. Surely, it's all about the music, right?
