Welp, did it again... NBD (dots and binding Jazz)

[Dynacord]

Wiring the pan pot "backwards" makes it so when the knob is rolled all the way clockwise the instrument is at its brightest, just like rolling the tone control all the way counterclockwise.

Kinda makes sense that way, but I'm used to the visual of turning the knob towards the pickup.

I never thought about it in that way but you're right, it does make sense from that POV.

I sat and hit like about fiddy times. That is mega cool, great find! Enjoy good sir.

Thank you, Sir. In a way I'm sort of disappointed that the finish is as good as it is as I was really looking for a victim to give the sparkle treatment much like yours. Conflicted....

 

[Dynacord]

They did - I personally don't like the Hipshot version w/blocky posts. They are quality and I'm sure work well but Gotoh makes the most authentic of both pops and same base-plate clovers. All that's missing is the Fender stamp.

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From the back they really do look 1:1 (except for the logo, as you say). Even the same gear ratio. The posts are the big giveaway with sharper edges and the center grooves:

The posts look closer on the Hipshots but I agree, the Gotohs are the closest overall.

I've got a set of Wilkinson tuning machines (which I believe is Gotoh's budget brand) and the posts look closer to correct on those and they are also 20:1. When I swap the tuners I may try the experiment and see it the Wilkinson and Gotoh parts are interchangeable. If this set was chrome like yours rather than nickel I'd probably just leave them on the bass (I've only ever seen original lollipops in chrome - though the bushings remained nickel).

 

[Sparuto]

They did - I personally don't like the Hipshot version w/blocky posts. They are quality and I'm sure work well but Gotoh makes the most authentic of both pops and same base-plate clovers. All that's missing is the Fender stamp.

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I don’t understand why the fender custom shop doesn’t use the gotoh lollipops. They look most authentic and doesnt appear inferior to the hipshots lollipops.

I like these Gotoh lollis so much that I even have them on my jazz.

 

[Dynacord]

I don’t understand why the fender custom shop doesn’t use the gotoh lollipops. They look most authentic and doesnt appear inferior to the hipshots lollipops.
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I like these Gotoh lollis so much that I even have them on my jazz.

That looks GREAT!

 

[Dynacord]

And maybe it's just your pic, but is the body thicker?

I think it was my pic. Here's another - they're pretty close:

 

[God's Favorite Bass]

I never thought about it in that way but you're right, it does make sense from that POV.



Thank you, Sir. In a way I'm sort of disappointed that the finish is as good as it is as I was really looking for a victim to give the sparkle treatment much like yours. Conflicted....

Oh, that's good as is...so nice. Besides, always need that "next" project.

 

[Dynacord]

Oh, that's good as is...so nice. Besides, always need that "next" project.

BTW it's sunny here today and, in the sun, I can see the finish is a sort of hybrid. It's over silver metallic as is usual for CAR (or gold) but the trans red actually has gold microflake mixed in. It's subtle but a nice look, makes it 'pop' a bit more, and does warm up the finish, much the way yellowed clear can:

Of course, doing anything with flake is a mess and it gets everywhere, including subsequent finished. Can see some evidence on the neck respray:

Also now see the nut is bone (I first thought plastic) so that's a nice surprise.

 

[JIO]

Of course, doing anything with flake is a mess and it gets everywhere, including subsequent finished. Can see some evidence on the neck respray:
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Interesting - is it just in spots or is the neck evenly sprinkled w/flake? I do that on some of my gilded finishes, in fact one is on its way from Pat Wilkins and will be here tomorrow. Years ago I asked him if he could approximate the look on some urban sidewalks where at night under street-lighting it shimmers. (tiny mica particles mixed in the concrete) Had a small stash of a product that isn't available anymore (tiny gold flake similar to that) and he dusted the gilded finish with it. After I saw that 1st result I asked if he would set it aside for my use only. He agreed and I've used it on a select few finishes. It's very subtle and hard to photograph, hardly noticeable until hit with light. It's quite magical.

You can sort of see it (tiny specks) but in person it comes alive!

 

[Dynacord]

Interesting - is it just in spots or is the neck evenly sprinkled w/flake? I do that on some of my gilded finishes, in fact one is on its way from Pat Wilkins and will be here tomorrow. Years ago I asked him if he could approximate the look on some urban sidewalks where at night under street-lighting it shimmers. (tiny mica particles mixed in the concrete) Had a small stash of a product that isn't available anymore (tiny gold flake similar to that) and he dusted the gilded finish with it. After I saw that 1st result I asked if he would set it aside for my use only. He agreed and I've used it on a select few finishes. It's very subtle and hard to photograph, hardly noticeable until hit with light. It's quite magical.

You can sort of see it (tiny specks) but in person it comes alive!
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It's evenly distributed in the red on the body and headstock face but is clearly just random 'contamination' on the back of the neck - just in spots. Not very noticeable given the amber color of the lacquer unless it catches the sun or other light just right.

Interested to see yours when back from Pat!

 

[KPopOnBass]

hootenanny button

OK, I'll bite. What's the hootenanny button? Amateur TB linguists want to know.

In context, my guess is it's what's on the other side of the headstock from the string tree button. Looks like it's meant for a strap attachment (which would be super-weird compared to the normal locations) but is there some reason it has that name?

 

[Dynacord]

OK, I'll bite. What's the hootenanny button? Amateur TB linguists want to know.

In context, my guess is it's what's on the other side of the headstock from the string tree button. Looks like it's meant for a strap attachment (which would be super-weird compared to the normal locations) but is there some reason it has that name?

Exactly right. As to the name, have heard it called that for decades. I sort of figured it was in reference to acoustic guitar players and Fender trying to appeal to them (then being common to attach acoustic guitar straps behind the nut). In any case it never caught on but was a characteristic detail on P and J basses from '60 - '69.

 

[Gbass75]

I used to have this bass in white... so, so beautifully made... but, it just weighed a little too much to compete with my other basses.

Luckily, a close friend bought it from me, so if I'm really hankerin' to play it, I can just pop on over!

Your basses are lovely!

Cheers!

~G.

 

[Dynacord]

I used to have this bass in white... so, so beautifully made... but, it just weighed a little too much to compete with my other basses.

Luckily, a close friend bought it from me, so if I'm really hankerin' to play it, I can just pop on over!

Your basses are lovely!

Cheers!

~G.

Thanks!

Nice when they stay in the family, so to speak.

I've been watching them on eBay for a couple years and a lot of them are around 10 lbs. This one being supposedly 8.5 was a real factor in me buying it - but it's still quite OK for me at slightly over 9 lbs. The real 'keeper' factor for me is the neck - pretty much bang on with my '66 - maybe a hair thinner front to back. Feels perfect to my tastes.

 

[God's Favorite Bass]

BTW it's sunny here today and, in the sun, I can see the finish is a sort of hybrid. It's over silver metallic as is usual for CAR (or gold) but the trans red actually has gold microflake mixed in. It's subtle but a nice look, makes it 'pop' a bit more, and does warm up the finish, much the way yellowed clear can:

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Of course, doing anything with flake is a mess and it gets everywhere, including subsequent finished. Can see some evidence on the neck respray:

View attachment 4436358

Also now see the nut is bone (I first thought plastic) so that's a nice surprise.

Beautiful!

 

[JIO]

OK, I'll bite. What's the hootenanny button? Amateur TB linguists want to know.

In context, my guess is it's what's on the other side of the headstock from the string tree button. Looks like it's meant for a strap attachment (which would be super-weird compared to the normal locations) but is there some reason it has that name?

Exactly right. As to the name, have heard it called that for decades. I sort of figured it was in reference to acoustic guitar players and Fender trying to appeal to them (then being common to attach acoustic guitar straps behind the nut). In any case it never caught on but was a characteristic detail on P and J basses from '60 - '69.

Fender employee Freddie Tavares playing an early P-bass using the "Hootenanny" strap peg.

An interesting detail - in 1968 the Vanilla Fudge performed on the Ed Sullivan show. Tim Bogert, who was know to modify his Fender basses is seen playing a unique custom Tele guitar style bass. At 3:06 you can see a Hootenanny peg on the back of the Tele hs. I don't know the story on that bass, whether it was possibly a Fender prototype or something Tim had made. It appears to have 3 pu's; a chrome housed single-coil at the neck heal (like on a Tele guitar), the Seth Lover Fender bucker that would appear on the released 1970 Tele bass below it, and a slanted single (again, similar to a Tele guitar) below that. It wasn't until G&L released a Tele guitar-body style bass (ASAT) in the late '80s for a bass like that to appear in production.

 

[Grinderman]

The fade of that '66 Fiesta is gorgeous.

 

[God's Favorite Bass]

Fender employee Freddie Tavares playing an early P-bass using the "Hootenanny" strap peg.
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An interesting detail - in 1968 the Vanilla Fudge performed on the Ed Sullivan show. Tim Bogert, who was know to modify his Fender basses is seen playing a unique custom Tele guitar style bass. At 3:06 you can see a Hootenanny peg on the back of the Tele hs. I don't know the story on that bass, whether it was possibly a Fender prototype or something Tim had made. It appears to have 3 pu's; a chrome housed single-coil at the neck heal (like on a Tele guitar), the Seth Lover Fender bucker that would appear on the released 1970 Tele bass below it, and a slanted single (again, similar to a Tele guitar) below that. It wasn't until G&L released a Tele guitar-body style bass (ASAT) in the late '80s for a bass like that to appear in production.

I watch that vid religiously a couple of times a year.

 

[JIO]

I watch that vid religiously a couple of times a year.

Right? The VF and Tim Bogert were my favorite band/bass player then. I actually missed seeing the TV performance as I was sick in bed, but my mom turned up the TV downstairs so I could hear it! I just love their over-the-top exaggerated gyrations -

The good Captain and his Magic Band were also good at active theatrics!

 

[Dynacord]

Right? The VF and Tim Bogert were my favorite band/bass player then. I actually missed seeing the TV performance as I was sick in bed, but my mom turned up the TV downstairs so I could hear it! I just love their over-the-top exaggerated gyrations -

The good Captain and his Magic Band were also good at active theatrics!

Very cool. A sidebar, in the summer of '85 I did the summer session at BIT/Musician's Institute (back when it was upstairs from the Hollywood Wax Museum) and had weekly clinics (groups of 4 IIRC) with Tim Bogert (and also, separately, Jeff Berlin). Tim was something else! This was the same time that Jaco visited and did a group meeting along with Berlin with the bass students (there's video of that on YouTube).

 

[JIO]

Very cool. A sidebar, in the summer of '85 I did the summer session at BIT/Musician's Institute (back when it was upstairs from the Hollywood Wax Museum) and had weekly clinics (groups of 4 IIRC) with Tim Bogert (and also, separately, Jeff Berlin). Tim was something else! This was the same time that Jaco visited and did a group meeting along with Berlin with the bass students (there's video of that on YouTube).

I saw (fresh) Jaco in '76 on his first tour with Weather Report, but sadly never saw Tim Bogert live. Played his (VF/Cactus/Beck, Bogert, Apiece) records over and over again. "...Tim Bogert.., on the Fender bass... Thank You!" (from the live "Break Song" on "Rock & Roll" post Tim's kick-ass solo)