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Welp, did it again... NBD (dots and binding Jazz)

I keep telling myself I'm done buying basses - but then they drag me back in....

I posted some time ago about a project '66 Jazz Bass I got a couple years ago:

coaral 66.jpg


I really, really like this bass. Neck profile is perfect for me, great weight, etc and it made me really grow to love the dots and binding look of the early '66s. I was aware of the Japanese market only Fender "JB65B" basses (misnamed but to draw distinction from the JB66B with is blocks and binding). Thought it might be fun to find one and use it as a platform to do a sparkle/metal flake refin. I set up eBay notification for them but whenever they showed up they - to my relief - were just too expensive - plus I'd want to make changes which would add further to the overall costs. Then this showed up and it already had the mods I'd want (more vintage correct hardware and the poly stripped from the neck and body and reshot in nitro Candy Apple Red - trans red over silver - I know that's a contradiction but I'd want at least the back of the neck in nitro and I HATE stripping poly) plus an onboard Sadowsky preamp with the VTC and DiMarzio Ultra-Jazz pickups (very similar to some of the pickups Sadowsky uses as well). 9.29 lbs (was misrepresented as 8.5 but it's okay...) Anyway, here it is:

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Reds are always hard to photograph accurately but it's a better than expected refin - looks accurate (I had an original '65 CAR for years) and very thin:

CAR detail.jpg


Inexplicably, the pan pot was wired backwards. Reversed the wires, cleaned the bass up, oiled the fretboard - beautiful piece of rosewood:

fingerboard.jpg


The dots are faux pearl.

Put on some GHS Balanced Nickels and set it up and it plays and sounds as good as I could have hoped for.

headstock.jpg


It has 'aged' nickel Gotoh lollipops on it. Thanks to a recent trade with Dave Reimer I have a set of original lollipops/ovals so I may throw those on - can always remove them if I find a more appropriate use in the future:

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Anyway, really happy with the bass - it feels like 'home' relative to my other one but would be a better choice for fly gigs, etc and does offer the expanded palette of the Sadowsky sound and noiseless pickups while still being able to default back to the passive mode.

So, how does it compare to the 'real' one? Pretty well, main point is the neck profiles do feel similar. There are some minor cosmetic differences (the binding is wider, side dots are smaller, hootenanny button placement, truss rod nut is smaller, there's a truss rod access route in the body - but no CNC guide hole under the pickguard, nut is plastic vs bone). The main differences are that it has a more pronounce neck volute:

headstock sides.jpg

(^ 1966 on the left, JB65 on the right)

back of headstocks.jpg

('66 top, JB65 bottom)

And the belly cut is not as deep on the JB65:

Sides:belly cuts.jpg


Cool basses worth seeking out IMO if one is into that particular look and feel.
 
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Awesome David! I wonder who did the finishing on it. I know that model was produced in Japan, but was it from Japan? I know vintage Teisco's had the tone pot wired in reverse so maybe that's a Japanese thing. And maybe it's just your pic, but is the body thicker? Yah - I'd put your vintage pops on it for sure. I have a nice set of '66 Mustang pops but the J sized pops have always been out of my price range. (upward from $500) I've always been curious about those MIJ '66 J's - sounds like you have a good one! :thumbsup: :bassist:
 
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Awesome David! I wonder who did the finishing on it. I know that model was produced in Japan, but was it from Japan? I know vintage Teisco's had the tone pot wired in reverse so maybe that's a Japanese thing. And maybe it's just your pic, but is the body thicker? Yah - I'd put your vintage pops on it for sure. I have a nice set of '66 Mustang pops but the J sized pops have always been out of my price range. (upward from $500) I've always been curious about those MIJ '66 J's - sounds like you have a good one! :thumbsup: :bassist:

The seller said - though the communications were very Google Translate - that the finish and other work was done by a luthier in Tokyo. It's good work. Yes, my understanding is that model (JB65B-US) was made by Fender Japan for the domestic Japanese market. The tuning machines that were stock look sort of like the late 60's - 70's type so the Gotoh lollipops are already a significant upgrade towards getting the look right. I'll put the real ones on though. I can always change them back out later if need be.

No idea on the wiring thing. Maybe intentional. I've seen some Ibanez basses where they have the pan knob first and then the master volume which seems backwards to me but apparently not to some others.
 
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BTW the original colors when new - including CAR, though in poly:

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Yes, this came from Japan. Interesting on the body. I'll have to measure to confirm. I didn't notice a difference.

Have only seen the wht & blk versions.
 
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Yes. And the placement of the decal as well - usually further forward. Looks like someone put Hipshot lollipops on that one.

They did - I personally don't like the Hipshot version w/blocky posts. They are quality and I'm sure work well but Gotoh makes the most authentic of both pops and same base-plate clovers. All that's missing is the Fender stamp.

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I keep telling myself I'm done buying basses - but then they drag me back in....

I posted some time ago about a project '66 Jazz Bass I got a couple years ago:

View attachment 4431909

I really, really like this bass. Neck profile is perfect for me, great weight, etc and it made me really grow to love the dots and binding look of the early '66s. I was aware of the Japanese market only Fender "JB65B" basses (misnamed but to draw distinction from the JB66B with is blocks and binding). Thought it might be fun to find one and use it as a platform to do a sparkle/metal flake refin. I set up eBay notification for them but whenever they showed up they - to my relief - were just too expensive - plus I'd want to make changes which would add further to the overall costs. Then this showed up and it already had the mods I'd want (more vintage correct hardware and the poly stripped from the neck and body and reshot in nitro Candy Apple Red - trans red over silver - I know that's a contradiction but I'd want at least the back of the neck in nitro and I HATE stripping poly) plus an onboard Sadowsky preamp with the VTC and DiMarzio Ultra-Jazz pickups (very similar to some of the pickups Sadowsky uses as well). 9.29 lbs (was misrepresented as 8.5 but it's okay...) Anyway, here it is:

View attachment 4431919

Reds are always hard to photograph accurately but it's a better than expected refin - looks accurate (I had an original '65 CAR for years) and very thin:

View attachment 4431921

Inexplicably, the pan pot was wired backwards. Reversed the wires, cleaned the bass up, oiled the fretboard - beautiful piece of rosewood:

View attachment 4431922

The dots are faux pearl.

Put on some GHS Balanced Nickels and set it up and it plays and sounds as good as I could have hoped for.

View attachment 4431924

It has 'aged' nickel Gotoh lollipops on it. Thanks to a recent trade with Dave Reimer I have a set of original lollipops/ovals so I may throw those on - can always remove them if I find a more appropriate use in the future:

View attachment 4431926

Anyway, really happy with the bass - it feels like 'home' relative to my other one but would be a better choice for fly gigs, etc and does offer the expanded palette of the Sadowsky sound and noiseless pickups while still being able to default back to the passive mode.

So, how does it compare to the 'real' one? Pretty well, main point is the neck profiles do feel similar. There are some minor cosmetic differences (the binding is wider, side dots are smaller, hootenanny button placement, truss rod nut is smaller, there's a truss rod access route in the body - but no CNC guide hole under the pickguard, nut is plastic vs bone). The main differences are that it has a more pronounce neck volute:

View attachment 4431928
(^ 1966 on the left, JB65 on the right)

View attachment 4431929
('66 top, JB65 bottom)

And the belly cut is not as deep on the JB65:

View attachment 4431931

Cool basses worth seeking out IMO if one is into that particular look and feel.
I sat and hit like about fiddy times. That is mega cool, great find! Enjoy good sir.
 
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Wiring the pan pot "backwards" makes it so when the knob is rolled all the way clockwise the instrument is at its brightest, just like rolling the tone control all the way counterclockwise.

Kinda makes sense that way, but I'm used to the visual of turning the knob towards the pickup.

It really is more of an interpretation thing. First becoming aware of the Teisco reversed tone pot, I sorta' got it; clockwise=more bass, counter-clockwise is less bass (treble) Especially on a bass guitar.
 
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