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What does an authentic Jazz bass really sound like? Small rant warning.

I do not know how to answer this question.
Is a jazz bass really just a really good platform to modify?
If so why?
Why does it seem the Jazz bass can not stand in its own anymore?
Change the pickups so you get more of a deep growl. To me just purchase a P Bass.
Just use your neck pickup and it will be the same as a P Bass. Not even close in the real world.
You know what I am going to say; just buy a P bass.
Now it’s active preamps and 3.1415926 band EQ’s.
Can’t say get a P Bass for that.

So again what does a traditional Jazz bass sound like?
What is wrong with a passive Bass.
Why does it seem that Jazz Basses are not any good any more unless they are modified to sound like something else?
I have my power basses. I do not need a Jazz to sound like my Warwick.

I do not need a modified Jazz to sound like my trucks diesel engine, Bark like my Heeler or sound like the Flute in the TCB Band.

I apologize! End of Rant. Can some one help me with this?

Thanks in advance
Clayton. Now the Unofficial Mayor of Bearville.
Except for pickguards, and two of them having knurled speed knobs instead of top hats, these three are pretty much stock.

One is strung with half rounds, green flame top, and the other two with rounds. And they all are very distinctive from each other in sound. And no need to change the stock pups in any of them. And the CIJ is definitely growlier than the others.

Left to right
2022 FSR green maple flame
2006 - 2008 CIJ GL Signature Series
2021 - Fender 75th Anniversary limited edition blue maple flame

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The Question is still valid. Leo said if you read the books about the history of the Fender company “ The Jazz bass is my greatest invention” . Direct quote.

After all these years yes people are going to modify them to what they want. That is totally cool with me, you just can’t call it a Jazz bass anymore.

A Jazz Bass platform sure, but not what Leo brought fourth at all. At G&L even then Mr Fender modified the Jazz with the improvements he wanted yes, but only to the point of improving on his original concept.

Not changing it to sound and look like something else.
If the new idea brings a new sound and works very well then recognize it as a new concept/idea and celebrate the achievement.
Car manufacturers have been doing this for years. The Ford Comet had a new body put directly on its frame. It was not called a Comet.2, it was called a Mustang. New look, same good bones/platform.
The Ford Comet was based on the Ford Falcon.

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[QUOTE="Rip Van Dan, post: 27783314, member: 137734

Me and my '65 Jazz in late 1971 or early 1972 with my Standel amp behind me:
View attachment 5183909

This brings back memories. I had a Standel back then, too.

I have a '62 reissue jbass. All stock. This goes into one channel of my amp, the pbass goes in the other. Love both tones.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's perfect. Covers both basses.
 
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Well first, a p-bass is an inarticulate hammer. So if you would like to play anything melodic with any kind of speed then you can look at something that has a pup closer to the bridge. If you’re goal is nice, slow and deliberate notes or fast notes with no warmth and tone then go with that hammer.
However…if you like things that sound good and you are chasing an expressive tone…then move beyond a split single coil in the semi bridge position.
Ummm....David Margen has no trouble being expressive on a P-Bass....
 
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I do not know how to answer this question.
Is a jazz bass really just a really good platform to modify?
If so why?
Why does it seem the Jazz bass can not stand in its own anymore?
Change the pickups so you get more of a deep growl. To me just purchase a P Bass.
Just use your neck pickup and it will be the same as a P Bass. Not even close in the real world.
You know what I am going to say; just buy a P bass.
Now it’s active preamps and 3.1415926 band EQ’s.
Can’t say get a P Bass for that.

So again what does a traditional Jazz bass sound like?
What is wrong with a passive Bass.
Why does it seem that Jazz Basses are not any good any more unless they are modified to sound like something else?
I have my power basses. I do not need a Jazz to sound like my Warwick.

I do not need a modified Jazz to sound like my trucks diesel engine, Bark like my Heeler or sound like the Flute in the TCB Band.

I apologize! End of Rant. Can some one help me with this?

Thanks in advance
Clayton. Now the Unofficial Mayor of Bearville.

An authentic Jazz sounds good to me but, I prefer a P with a J neck ;)...what rant?
 
I do not know how to answer this question.
Is a jazz bass really just a really good platform to modify?
If so why?
Why does it seem the Jazz bass can not stand in its own anymore?
Change the pickups so you get more of a deep growl. To me just purchase a P Bass.
Just use your neck pickup and it will be the same as a P Bass. Not even close in the real world.
You know what I am going to say; just buy a P bass.
Now it’s active preamps and 3.1415926 band EQ’s.
Can’t say get a P Bass for that.

So again what does a traditional Jazz bass sound like?
What is wrong with a passive Bass.
Why does it seem that Jazz Basses are not any good any more unless they are modified to sound like something else?
I have my power basses. I do not need a Jazz to sound like my Warwick.

I do not need a modified Jazz to sound like my trucks diesel engine, Bark like my Heeler or sound like the Flute in the TCB Band.

I apologize! End of Rant. Can some one help me with this?

Thanks in advance
Clayton. Now the Unofficial Mayor of Bearville.
I LOVE a Jazz bass. I have 2 American Standards 2012 & 2014. They are stock. Sound GREAT!! Also have a 2020 Custom Shop. 4 P basses and a few others. But play the Jazzes 100% of the time live. But to each their own.
 
Imho, 2 pickups and tone knob full on - with additional preamp or overdrive support is perfect jazz bass tone for me. I use sadowsky sbp1 or aguilar db 925 and that's it...

I really don't know how you guys can use neck or bridge only tones especially on live shows. Bridge is lacking lows, neck is lacking definition for me.
 
To the OP:

You're right. Noone has ever made good music using a Jazz Bass. ;-)

A bass is a musical instrument, It's a paint brush, a tool with which you create your art.

Arguing which paint brush is the best is a waste of time. Yes, a lot of us are guilty of that on here, and we should realize that.

Find a paint brush you like, find several if you want - I'm pretty sure Van Gogh had more than one. Once you have one or more tools that work for you, practice your craft and make art.
 
There are plenty of us out here nice and happy with our unmodified Jazz basses.

That bass is absolutely alive and kicking out there in the real world.

We just don't see that many posts about it because "Hey TalkBass, I've got this very popular instrument that I've done nothing to because it suits my needs right out of the box. Discuss!" doesn't make for a very engaging thread.
 
To the OP:

You're right. Noone has ever made good music using a Jazz Bass. ;-)

A bass is a musical instrument, It's a paint brush, a tool with which you create your art.

Arguing which paint brush is the best is a waste of time. Yes, a lot of us are guilty of that on here, and we should realize that.

Find a paint brush you like, find several if you want - I'm pretty sure Van Gogh had more than one. Once you have one or more tools that work for you, practice your craft and make art.

But, watch out for that ear...
 
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That was a well thought out, well stated, logical answer. Which of course has no business on talkbass.
You start with a false premise. You don't hear people talking about their unmodified jazz basses because there's nothing to talk about. People talk about what they're going to change, not what they're leaving alone. I don't think anyone here has ever said, "hey, I just bought this cool Jazz bass. Over the next six months I'm not going to order any parts and I'm not going to swap out the pickups or the bridge." You only hear those sorts of things from people who do want to do things.

The jazz bass has one of the most distinctive sounds I'm aware of. It's also more versatile than some basses, so you can get more out of it and you don't have to stick with a traditional, close-to-the-bridge, burpy sound ala Jaco if you don't want to. You can do more with it. That, in itself, is part of why Jaco and John Paul Jones don't sound the same.

I'm not sure there's anything else to say about it. Some folks will modify anything because they like to tinker and others will do it because they're chasing a specific sound, and some are just never satisfied. But some folks, like me, think their basses sound just fine the way they are and don't have the urge to change anything.