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What happened to funk?
- Thread starter Tupac
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- Jan 12, 2011
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For all you Funk fans that like it with horns check out (again) Breakwater (Splash Down Time) some Philly Funk with horns. their tune say you love me girl is nice too but more on the R&B side. The real deal funk with horns, early Cameo (Rigor Mortis). This is FUNK Y'all. Good thread though.
And for some home grown funk with some sassy female rappers...we gonna Funk You Right on up. get up, get up, get up, get uip.....
And for some home grown funk with some sassy female rappers...we gonna Funk You Right on up. get up, get up, get up, get uip.....
I didn't dig it. Because I heard what Sly was capable of before this. No offense... and yeah, I was gigging back then. Rusty was cool but after Larry Graham... nope. That was at best a funk vamp in E.
So if by a generically funky standard, yes it fits the bill... but it wouldn't be an example I'd put up. My first clip would be late 60's/early 70's James Brown.
Uptempo made "easy"...
What I'm hearing nowadays is Jamiroquai-funk. It's not the same.
Props to Soulive.
What I'm hearing nowadays is Jamiroquai-funk. It's not the same.
Props to Soulive.
Brad Johnson said:
That's not much of a reason for not digging it,not that you even need a reason.
Sounds like you just didn't catch how funky it was. No shame in that.
We will have to agree to disagree, your obviously not a hard core fan. They, actually are the funk bench mark for the heavy hitters.
Here's a little known fact, sly played bass on 99% of their recordings including thank you.
"Thank You (Falletinme Be Mice Elf Agin)"? You're going to need some serious references to back up that claim.
I was DJing this one night when a girl came up to me and asked if I could play something "better" - something "funkier". What did she want to hear? Skrillex.
I was DJing this one night when a girl came up to me and asked if I could play something "better" - something "funkier". What did she want to hear? Skrillex.
*picking jaw up off floor.
Reminds me of the time a girl came to the classical section of the record store looking for the Beatles.
It wasn't close to noteworthy IMO. That's all... I've heard the same random groove a thousand times over the years. Generic as heck. It was back when that clip was made too.
I didn't "catch it" (lol) because IMO they weren't throwing it down. Clearly We hear this differently.
That's where we started... in disagreement. I'm fine with that.
"Obviously not a hardcore fan" of what? Sly's later lineups? Nope, not even close. The original lineup smokes this one. Funk in general? That would make me LOL.
Granted I'm apparently not as hardcore a fan as you think you are, where did you get this info? Why didn't Larry play "Thank You..." in the style he invented?
My guess, if I had to make one, is you may be confusing who played bass after Larry left with who played it period. Looking forward to seeing what you based this on.
As far as me not being a hardcore fan of Funk, I'm more than that... I grew up with the stuff, playing it in bands in the 1970's. I got the raw uncut stuff that didn't sell well to the masses. Like Dyke and the Blazers... look 'em up if they're unfamiliar. So when I get people telling me Brick House is funk... it lets me know what I'm working with
. I'm a big early Commodores fans and they did so many truly funky cuts that you'd only find on an album. The same with Cameo. Someone says "Word Up" and that says so much. Not "Cameosis". "Candy" or "I Just Want To Be". And so on.
Roger Troutman and Zapp. Heck, One Way's "Cutie Pie" still kills IMO.
Kool & the Gang were funky until they finally got a lead vocalist who could actually sing. Pleasure was killing in the sophisticated funk vein. Then you had all of the chitlin' circuit artists who most people never heard of. It wasn't funk by commitee back then... not that I know anything about it.
... look 'em up if they're unfamiliar. So when I get people telling me Brick House is funk... it lets me know what I'm working with. I'm a big early Commodores fans and they did so many truly funky cuts that you'd only find on an album. The same with Cameo. Someone says "Word Up" and that says so much. Not "Cameosis". "Candy" or "I Just Want To Be". And so on.Roger Troutman and Zapp. Heck, One Way's "Cutie Pie" still kills IMO.
Kool & the Gang were funky until they finally got a lead vocalist who could actually sing
. Pleasure was killing in the sophisticated funk vein. Then you had all of the chitlin' circuit artists who most people never heard of. It wasn't funk by commitee back then... not that I know anything about it.
Some folks need a real funk history lesson. That's why I started the Funk 101 thread now sticky. I know music changes with the times! I get that! But lets stop the watering down of classic musical styles! The funky jam band thing is cool but it's something for an open mic!As far as me not being a hardcore fan of Funk, I'm more than that... I grew up with the stuff, playing it in bands in the 1970's. I got the raw uncut stuff that didn't sell well to the masses. Like Dyke and the Blazers
Roger Troutman and Zapp. Heck, One Way's "Cutie Pie" still kills IMO.
Kool & the Gang were funky until they finally got a lead vocalist who could actually sing
Seriously, I love when people ask where the funk has gone cuz it gives me the chance to show off all the cool stuff that's happening TODAY. Nothing wrong with the old old but I love me some new and you just might too. This won't be strictly funk but it'll be plenty funky:
- Snarky Puppy. Seriously, nuff said.
I could go on an on but check these folks out.
Thank you so much for this post! Damn good stuff
Brad Johnson said:It wasn't close to noteworthy IMO. That's all... I've heard the same random groove a thousand times over the years. Generic as heck. It was back when that clip was made too.
As I said it just means you don't get it. I have no problem with that.
Not notworthy, you sort of right, it's not. It's more like s way of life.
I didn't "catch it" (lol) because IMO they weren't throwing it down. Clearly We hear this differently.
You caught it, you just didn't get it.
That's where we started... in disagreement. I'm fine with that.
Agreed
"Obviously not a hardcore fan" of what? Sly's later lineups? Nope, not even close. The original lineup smokes this one. Funk in general? That would make me LOL.
I would say you know very little, next to nothing about the history of this band. I was at. Woodstock, every Madison Square Garden show, Filmore East, I even go back to the Electric Circus days to when he was playing to 25 people in clubs in the early 80s.
Granted I'm apparently not as hardcore a fan as you think you are, where did you get this info? Why didn't Larry play "Thank You..." in the style he invented?
Because didn't invent that style.
My guess, if I had to make one, is you may be confusing who played bass after Larry left with who played it period. Looking forward to seeing what you based this on.
I'm basing it on, the fact that it's coming from me, I am the expert. I know when Larry & Greg left, who replaced them and why.
Brad Johnson said:As far as me not being a hardcore fan of Funk, I'm more than that... I grew up with the stuff, playing it in bands in the 1970's. I got the raw uncut stuff that didn't sell well to the masses. Like Dyke and the Blazers
Roger Troutman and Zapp. Heck, One Way's "Cutie Pie" still kills IMO.
Kool & the Gang were funky until they finally got a lead vocalist who could actually sing
You know your history. So refreshing and your right about brick house, cool groove but it ain't funk.
Blue
