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What happened to Mesa Boogie cabinets?

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Prius C with a self created cargo pit...
 

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MattZilla said:
I have been prepared for over a decade to tell Toyota & Subaru designers that they screwed up massively with the BRZ/FRS/86 in making it not have the simple feature of liftback glass hatch to make the adequate cargo space that they did give it be actually accessible (Nissan Z has it, it can be done), screwed it up less massively but still big in giving it miniature ricey Ferrari California looks that makes a fast sloping roof a styling essential which made the rear seat useless, making the whole vehicle have only slightly more Monday to Friday utility than a Bakfiets Bicycle instead of letting it ape the boxy 80s Corolla liftback Trueno/Levin that they constantly referenced in their advertising and in the model name “86”.

“Retro wouldn’t have sold well” I’d bet a few of those CALTY higher-ups would’ve said. Tell that to anyone who ever saw the Giugiaro reboot of the Mustang (everyone everywhere).

I recently read that, to make it less slow -motorcycle-with-4-wheels-and-a-cabin into more of a slow lightweight car, allegedly they’re working on a four door version. Jayzuss. So close to the scent. Like they didn’t learn anything from Mazda’s RX-8. $10 says the next one still will technically have the cargo area to fit a 215 perfectly fine with the seats down, but no liftback glass and just a tiny miata trunk lid that barely allows more than a loaded Jansport backpack into & out of the trunk, and it’ll have super desirable four door coupe sloped roof styling that make the rear seat still useless. I hope I’m wrong.

I know I’m not that nearly educated enough to be in the same room as them, but I still think somebody screwed up the research groups results and guided the project into only being a hardtop miata. Sure, the Toyobaru Twins did outsell the MX-5 most years, but I am confident that they could’ve also stolen a lot of Golf, Mazda 3, and other daily driver car sales.
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I hear you & had similar thoughts while flying in the U.S. Navy as an aircrewman on P-3C Orion's (antisubmarine warfare aircraft). Some of the spaces you're supposed to get your fingers, hands, arms, head into to repair something was ridiculous. Another case of super smart engineers not actually thinking "Well jeez, how is a person supposed to cram into this minute space let alone reach a nut on this actuator that is behind a pipe that you cannot even see & in the dark?".
 
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agedhorse said:
That's why I have a Scion xB. Plenty of room and fabulous access to that space too.
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I love ours, with the set folded down I can get two Peavey International series III 3 way PA cabinets, an 18" Peavey sub, two 6 U rack cases, mixer, speaker and mic stands, little mic locker, and a bass rig if I was playing too.

When I was doing sound for small venues or grade school stuff when my grandson was there.

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Riff Ranger said:
Oh, I know. I saw them getting painted when I visited!

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To clarify, I will not let my deep, genuine fondness for big, stupid, old cabs stand in the way of getting something like the Subway 2x15 that just clearly outperforms them in every way. I don’t think the Subway series is unreasonably priced, either; I’m just operating on a 40-year-old-Peavey-gear-I-already-have budget unless something changes.
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Historically speaking the look of big, stupid, old cabs is pretty hard to beat. Rock and Roll!
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MarshallAC50Stack said:
Historically speaking the look of big, stupid, old cabs is pretty hard to beat. Rock and Roll!
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This was my goal when I was about 20 but only ended up with a single stack consisting of a SWR 8x8 on top of a SWR 2x12 & two Eden WT-300's on top of each other. It was taller then me but just barely (I'm 6' 1") haha, good times!!

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DJ Bebop said:
Nope, that all happened long before the Gibson thing.

It is based on better engineering and more modern experiences on what is really needed by professional musicians. Better quility sound, better power handling, better reliability, lighter weight.

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Amazing how these posts about changes because Gibson bought Mesa keep occurring when there is absolutely no change in the way Mesa operates as a result. Gibson is not doing to Mesa what Korg is sadly doing to Aguilar. And there is no evidence that it will.
 
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baxter_x said:
Very interesting as I am actually considering the 215.
I am after tone but also tactile experience. I really love my Genz Benz 212 Neox.
I guess the SW215 should be a big improvement.
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The Subway 410 and 215 are wonderful, state of the art cabs. I still have my sealed Berg NV610, and at 92 lbs with its form factor is still manageable. But I only use it for my SVT, which is really too heavy to take anywhere. The Mesa Subway stuff is incredible. Light, loud if needed, and versatile.
 
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