What is this garbage??

[okcrum]

A quick search of the history of teaching music shows many methods developed since 1900 for teaching instrumentalists and vocalists.

In addition, there are many older methods, since people learned how to do this before sticky tape was invented.

Scaffolding is a relatively recent (1950s) educational development.

 

[Deleted member 165050]

I'd be interested to know how many of those decrying learning aids can actually read music and/or have passed formal exams in any instrument.

 

[Fredrik E. Nilsen]

I'd be interested to know how many of those decrying learning aids can actually read music and/or have passed formal exams in any instrument.

And/or in teaching.

 

[LowEndOperative]

Do they have those for DB?

I suppose it's a learning tool until it's a crutch. It never seemed hard to learn which notes were where on the fingerboard without it, but YMMV.

I probably wouldn't show up for a gig with those on my bass though.

I used masking tape on the fingerboard when I was learning the upright, up thru the second position.

 

[petrus61]

This is a blanket warning for everyone:

Let people learn the way that they feel helps them. Unless you are the one paying for their lessons, you have no say in the matter. You are welcome to learn using whatever method you want, others are as well. Trust me, other people care about your methods just as much as you care about theirs.

Continuing to talk negatively about a method and/or people using a certain method is trolling and will be handled as such.

Please abide by what we were all taught as kids. If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all.

Ah yes, the old Jeff Berlin doctrine.

 

[okcrum]

I used masking tape on the fingerboard when I was learning the upright, up thru the second position.

That's why I said YMMV. My DB teacher didn't believe in doing that. He wanted me to learn not to look at the fingerboard.

 

[Paulabass]

I have to agree with both sides of this argument.
Any tool that works is OK, BUT, The note names are pretty damn simple, if the average person has trouble with alphabetical up to G then start again, they may have some trouble with other things in life.
I admit, it's been half a century, but I seem to remember being able to figure out the notes on a string in my first lesson.
If a student wants a visual representation, give them one of those posters of the circle of fifths. That's life changing.

 

[Skillet]

PLOT TWIST: OP is the seller and promoting his product!!!

 

[InternetAlias]

You’re trying my patience now!

Let's not pretend you demonstrated any, you started shouting at me as soon as I said the idea was okay.

The only thing you are going to learn by putting those fret stickers on your bass is that adhesive will ruin the finish on the fretboard.

Yeah man, you're going to ruin your $50 bass when you start practicing for the first time and get those stickers on it. I can just imagine what horrors would have happened to my unfinished rosewood fingerboard on my SX jazz a decade ago when I started playing the instrument, had I decided to put something like this on it.

Learn to play the proper way and stop this nonsense.

I play three instruments, as a hobby. How many instruments do you play? How much do you practice? I only practice the bass now, but piano and guitar still get some love from time to time. So tell me, why would you ever think a learning tool is nonsense if it could help someone? Again, I have no need for this now, but I would've found it helpful a decade ago.

You’re starting to sound like a fret sticker salesman.

Yeah, when you have nothing else to say, accuse people of trying to sell you the product because they are defending it from mindlessly stupid argumentation. I won't even use/buy this because it's too late for that, but if I know someone transitioning from another instrument to bass, and has music theory knowledge, I will definitely recommend this to them, because those people would find it most helpful, rather than newbies who don't even know what notes are. Here are some useful quotes so that you can learn something:

Please: if you're not a professional teacher (with some amount of experience), save us the "this is the right way to learn".

Continuing to talk negatively about a method and/or people using a certain method is trolling and will be handled as such.

I'd be interested to know how many of those decrying learning aids can actually read music and/or have passed formal exams in any instrument.

And/or in teaching.

I used masking tape on the fingerboard when I was learning the upright, up thru the second position.

 

[Brother Goose]

Bass Guitar Fretboard Note Labels Fret Stickers + Online Lessons & Learning Aids 5060492200109 | eBay

 

[GBBSbassist]

I have to agree with both sides of this argument.
Any tool that works is OK, BUT, The note names are pretty damn simple, if the average person has trouble with alphabetical up to G then start again, they may have some trouble with other things in life.
I admit, it's been half a century, but I seem to remember being able to figure out the notes on a string in my first lesson.
If a student wants a visual representation, give them one of those posters of the circle of fifths. That's life changing.

The stickers aren't to remember the note names though... they're to visualize and help remember where those notes are on the fretboard when you're in a specific tuning, so it has nothing to do with "having trouble with the alphabet up to G". Not sure how that's even an assumption by any one in this thread.

Good for you that you were able to figure out the notes on a stringed instrument your first lesson. It's asinine to believe that everyone can and should.

The circle of fifths is great (once you understand it), but I don't see how that's applicable or comparable to these in any way. It's not a visual representation in the same way these are especially in regards to playing a 4 string bass guitar.

 

[Paulabass]

^ Ok, I started my reply with -Whatever works. If it's a tool that works for SOME people that is fantastic. If other people do not have trouble remembering where notes are THAT TOO is fantastic. Who gives a flying__ what anybody else in the thread thinks, I'm not a sheep. I stated an OPINION.
IN MY OPINION, and to ME, the circle of fifths was a greater learning aid that what I considered the very sensible way that the notes follow already follow each other.
There are a thousand learning tools, and some will work for some and some will not work for others.
There's a place for butt hurt, and my reply was not it.

 

[tb4sbp]

I was always to lazy to put stickers on my fret board
But if it helps someone then more power to it

 

[Paulabass]

The circle of fifths is great (once you understand it), but I don't see how that's applicable or comparable to these in any way. It's not a visual representation in the same way these are especially in regards to playing a 4 string bass guitar.

BTW- If the circle of fifths isn't a visual representation, what the hell is????? Have you seen it? It's like a pie chart.

 

[Fredrik E. Nilsen]

BTW- If the circle of fifths isn't a visual representation, what the hell is????? Have you seen it? It's like a pie chart.

I have yet to see a bass shaped like a pie.

 

[GBBSbassist]

^ Ok, I started my reply with -Whatever works. If it's a tool that works for SOME people that is fantastic. If other people do not have trouble remembering where notes are THAT TOO is fantastic. Who gives a flying__ what anybody else in the thread thinks, I'm not a sheep. I stated an OPINION.
IN MY OPINION, and to ME, the circle of fifths was a greater learning aid that what I considered the very sensible way that the notes follow already follow each other.
There are a thousand learning tools, and some will work for some and some will not work for others.
There's a place for butt hurt, and my reply was not it.

You also prefaced it by stating that the target market of these probably also have trouble with the alphabet, which isn't the case. Maybe you and many others here simply don't understand the point of the product. Again, it's not to teach someone that ONE of the 12 notes is called a G. It's to teach them that the G is on X position on the fretboard, nothing more.

You have your opinion, great. But when your opinion is based on an incorrect assumption, it loses some of its merit.

And back to the circle of fifths again. Cool. It's a great learning tool for what it is, but it won't teach a beginner the position of the notes on a 4 string bass in E standard tuning. These do.

No clue why you're thinking I'm "butt hurt". I'll still have my morning coffee and I'll still go about my day.

 

[GBBSbassist]

BTW- If the circle of fifths isn't a visual representation, what the hell is????? Have you seen it? It's like a pie chart.

I don't think I can say it any better than this.

I have yet to see a bass shaped like a pie.

^

 

[bound'n'blocked]

When I was first learning to play the bass after being a guitar player for years, I went into a store one day and there was a used five string with all of the notes laid out on the fretboard with stickers. It looked hideous, but since a five string was still strange to me I found it interesting. I would grab it when i stopped in an noodle around on it. It helped me to learn the fretboard fairly quickly and made the fiver easier to get into.

I say... whatever helps you out...

BnB

 

[snarebear]

Seems like a good learning tool to me.

 

[klejst]

I would not say it's garbage, it's a learning tool to help people learn to play bass...