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What mods “add value” to you ?

Case-by-case, if I see a replacement pickup or aftermarket hardware as an actual improvement on the stock instrument (a mod I would do myself), I'll be happy to pay a little extra for it. If the originals are also included, I'd be fine with adding what I would consider the part's "used value" onto how I would normally value the stock bass. On the other hand, I am not going to reimburse the seller for the labor cost that he/she claims to have paid to have the upgrades done. Anything I could do myself, I am not going to pay somebody else for.
Also, this all changes if an instrument's stock value is dictated by all-original/vintage/collector's value. Then of course, it's worth considerably less due to the mods
 
K-mod on G&L L-series.

Ya I was thinking this one, that would definitely add value for me, but that's a very G&L L* specific thing. Maybe a tone knob and stacked volumes added to an SB-2.

Otherwise I like getting stuff more or less stock. I'm not willing to pay much of a premium at all for pickup/tuner upgrades

I guess I will say that my interest can be piqued by very inexpensive basses with serious upgrades. I got a Squier VM jazz a ways back with some very nice bartolinis that were probably worth almost as much as the bass. That was kind of a curiosity and I eventually sold it, but the upgrade did catch my attention in that case.
 
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If you were shopping for used basses .....what mods would make you willing to pay more then say, what a stock used bass in similar condition would cost?


I'm often curious about this. Some people say mods don't add any value to the bass. Other people say it does.

What do you believe ?

And if you believe mods add value, what mods do you believe add value and how much?
None because, I have an OCD problem about other people modding/working on my instruments. It's already in my 'brain housing group' that whoever worked on it before didn't do it the way I would've.
 
In order of importance to me:

Replacing a neck with a carbon fiber one.
Replacing a neck with a carbon fiber one. (it bears repeating)
Installing a strat-type boat jack if top mount or an electrosocket if edge mount.
Removing active electronics in favor of passive.
Re-purposing a battery compartment to power an on-board tuner.
Bartolini or Lace pickups.
Hipshot D-Tuner.
Tuner upgrades if necessary.
 
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I only play fretless with no lines and I always have a side dot at the first fret. Normally not too big of a mod that I can do myself. But in the case of my custom Status Graphites with the LEDs I was willing to pay extra for them. I also switch out stock strap buttons for Dunlop Straploks. Again, in the case of the Status Graphites, there are three button locations instead of two. I suppose these mods don't 'add value' to the instrument if I were to sell them.

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Mods to not raise the value for me. The quality of the mods and the quality of the workmanship involved with the mods are unknown at the time of purchase.

I have a motorcycle the same way. Took off the back-rest, added a platform holding a rear trunk, etc. When I sell it, I don't expect to get any of that money back.
 
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I think professionally done mods add value, the question is how much would the next owner pay for those. Certainly not the cost of the item or the labor to install it. But ultralight tuners, high-end pups, a quality brass bridge, a proper set up? If the original parts are still around? Surely most folks would want that, but would try to pay as little as possible for it. If you don't like the mods, don't buy the bass. If you like the mods, how much is the bass worth to you (regardless of what the pre-mod version cost)? The seller will rarely get his/her money back, should price the bass accordingly, and try to sell it locally so the buyer can see the mods first-hand. My two cents. Now, somebody buy my super awesome modded bass already! :D
 
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I echo what others have said, in that mods are such a personal thing, and as the owner/seller, I get that it may make it tougher to sell if the new buyer could care less and wants a stock instrument, to either keep stock or tune to their own specs.

However, what I may pay more for is a Plek'd instrument (although it all comes down to where it was Plek'd). I'm kind of spoiled in that I have a local shop that runs a Plek (13th Street Guitars) with heavy in-person support/training from Plek in Germany, and only one consistent operator, with very consistent results which I can feel/hear.

I may also pay for these if they are 'to my taste' on that specific instrument:
  • upgraded pickups (that said, I would not pay more for a Stingray with a swapped pickup, no matter which boutique builder - to me it's not an upgrade on that instrument, so long as the original was the alnico years)
  • upgraded bridge (a la Leo Quan)
  • upgraded pre (if I was looking for that sound on that specific instrument)
 
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Haven't read all the pages, but my thoughts -

First, any mod takes value OUT of the instrument as well as putting it IN. Anytime you replace something, by definition it's losing whatever is getting replaced. So if you take out the stock pickups and put in a set of $150 ones, you haven't added $150, you've added 150 MINUS the value of what was there already. And whatever the cost of the stock ones, if they did the job reasonably well, the "upgrade" may be a lot more marginal than the difference in price.

Second, with used instruments generally, there's a hit to value because you don't have the return-guarantee of buying something new from a retail outlet. That discounting applies to mods as well. And you don't have the security of a quality-control inspection from a manufacturer you trust.

Thirdly, the reality when shopping is rarely a this-price-vs-that-price calculation; it's more of a binary want-it/don't-want-it decision. So, for instance, I like jazz necks. A P bass modded Duck Dunn-style with a J neck would be of interest to me. I don't much care if it was made that way at the factory or if the current owner modded it. A P bass without the neck mod is not worth less money to me; I simply wouldn't buy it at all. Fender doesn't offer this, but take, say, a G&L LB-100. One seller is selling one that had a 1 5/8" neck, switched it out at some expense for a 1 1/2" neck. Another seller has one that came from the factory with the 1 1/2" neck. The guy who modded his didn't make it any more valuable than the other. He just made it one I would consider looking at.

Or take the example of installing an Audere preamp. Sure, that cost the owner money to do. But I like passive basses. The preamp doesn't add any value at all to me; in fact, it might make me ignore that offering. It's only going to be of interest to a buyer who wants the Jazz bass BUT ALSO feels that they need Audere preamps to be desirable. That's going to be a smaller market; and lower demand means lower price.

Related to that, a buyer usually goes shopping with an idea in mind that's probably based on usual factory specs. If I want a J bass, I want a J bass, and I know what that entails. Someone may have souped up their J bass, and that's all well and good. But it's gravy on top of what I already want, at best. If I can get a J bass I like for $400 I'm not going to be terribly motivated to cough up $500 for a J bass with gravy. I already got what I wanted for the lower price. If I'm saying to myself, "What I really want is a bass with an Audere preamp," then I'm going to look at brands that have that standard, and only by coincidence might someone's used J-with-Audere pop up on my radar as I'm browsing the TB classifieds or Reverb or whatever.
 
So to sum up ......

To a large portion of you guys, a MIM Jazz with Nordstrand pickups, Hipshot tuners, and a Audere preamp is worth exactly the same as a stock MIM Jazz ....

Hmmm.....

Man, it sounds so harsh when you say it like that.

In my mind, a used, stock, mim jazz is $300, or less. That list of mods costs that much or more. And those are great choices.

If I picked up a decent playing mim for a song, I might do those very mods. I'd probably buy the stuff used here on TB, and do the work myself. Plus $25 for Luminlay side dots, gotta have some glow in the dark! It would be a tinkering, fun project bass. A perfect bass for dragging around everywhere and jams.

But if I want to get my money back out of it, it better be a pretty, sparkly finish. And I'd probably be lucky to break even.

It's like building my fEafuls. I can recoup the cost of parts and materials, but not my labor. Luckily, building cabs is my idea of fun.

Now I'm wondering if spiffing inexpensive used basses might be fun.
 
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