What neck is this? Real, Re-issue, or Fake??

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Andrew Eason, Oct 14, 2021.


  1. Andrew Eason

    Andrew Eason

    Oct 14, 2021
    Aquired this neck today, and cant find any info on it. Previous owner tinted the headstock with that Stewmack tinting. He thinks he sanded a Mexi serial number off the back of the headstock, but the date code is throwing me off. Please help. Also had Hipshot tuners installed, that were not original. Any info greatly appreciated.
     
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  2. JimmyM

    JimmyM

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    I thought the date code was written in pencil on those. At any rate, it looks like somebody tried to dummy up A vintage Fender neck Out of a non-vintage to me.
     
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  3. Andrew Eason

    Andrew Eason

    Oct 14, 2021
    The date stamp is the correct font and stamp style if you look at other 65's
     
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  4. JimmyM

    JimmyM

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    OK then, maybe it’s a real one.
     
  5. Andrew Eason

    Andrew Eason

    Oct 14, 2021
    It looks to me to possibly be a Vintera 60's neck but I thought they put the actual manufacture date, not a 65 date. Im lost.
     
  6. Grinderman

    Grinderman

    Dec 21, 2013
    Los Angeles
    It appears real as far as shapes, contours and the Fender decal on the headstock; however, that ink stamp on the heel--'5NOV65 C'--isn't right.

    1. Though the pearloid marker dots would be right for 1965, Fender didn't make slab rosewood fretboards for J and P basses in '65.

    2. It's also not a Fender C width neck because the decal says Jazz Bass and the width at the nut looks 1-1/2", consistent with a Jazz Bass neck and decal. Fender Jazz Bass necks are A width/1-1/2". Fender C necks are around 1-3/4" wide, synonymous with Fender Precision Basses.

    3. The font or typeface of the stamp isn't correct.

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    I suspect a more recently made Fender Jazz neck, maybe MIM Roadworn, but someone added a phony stamp on the heel, at least.
     
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  7. Andrew Eason

    Andrew Eason

    Oct 14, 2021
    Do you think it could be a Vintera or mexi reissue. I believe it is a Fender neck, but cant for the life of me figure out why the stamp is on the neck. Although it looks like some other stamps from 65 i see on google images.
     
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  8. Grinderman

    Grinderman

    Dec 21, 2013
    Los Angeles
    The stamp on this example is fatter or squishier but still it's not a slab board and not a C neck.

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  9. Grinderman

    Grinderman

    Dec 21, 2013
    Los Angeles
    Again, Fender didn't make flat laminated slab rosewood fretboard in 1965 and C isn't 1-1/2" wide at the nut and Fender C isn't Fender Jazz Bass. Just by looking at the pictures, that neck obviously isn't more than 1-1/2" wide at the nut.

    The information the stamp portrays does not match the physical attributes of the neck itself

    Understand what I'm getting at?

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  10. micguy

    micguy

    May 17, 2011
    It's not a Fender neck from 65 - the slab board precludes that. That, in turn, means the neck stamp is fake. So, we know that there is deception going on here. The "spray tan" is also very obviously not real aging. Do you want to buy anything from someone who's lying to you?
     
  11. Grinderman

    Grinderman

    Dec 21, 2013
    Los Angeles
    That 'Offset Contour Body' decal on the neck you're looking at is in the wrong position on headstock for a 1965, too.

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  12. mongo2

    mongo2

    Feb 17, 2008
    Da Shaw
    For a J bass from '65 the nut width should be 1-7/16" which was the original and advertised nut width for J basses. It was continued well into the '70's.
     
  13. Andrew Eason

    Andrew Eason

    Oct 14, 2021
    You think it is a fake, or someone just tryed to pass it as a 65 by stamping the heel?

    I assume sanding that off lightly on the heel would be a better option, right.
     
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  14. Grinderman

    Grinderman

    Dec 21, 2013
    Los Angeles
    Also, I've own an actual 1965 Fender Jazz Bass... a real one.
     
  15. Andrew Eason

    Andrew Eason

    Oct 14, 2021
    The Vintera that I saw had the Contour decal in this place. Thats why I thought maybe a Vintera. The guy stated it was a mexi reissue neck, but the stamp threw me off, maybe it is just that, a re-issue neck.
     
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  16. Andrew Eason

    Andrew Eason

    Oct 14, 2021
    Im pretty confident it is a Fender, I just didnt know about the stamp, I thought it was odd
     
  17. Andrew Eason

    Andrew Eason

    Oct 14, 2021
    Basically someone tryed to pass it for a 65, by adding the stamp, right?
     
  18. Grinderman

    Grinderman

    Dec 21, 2013
    Los Angeles
    Yes, A, B, and C width Fender necks have always remained within +/- 1/16" tolerance of 1-1/2", 1-5/8" and 1-3/4" respectively, regardless of the year.
     
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  19. Grinderman

    Grinderman

    Dec 21, 2013
    Los Angeles
    I wouldn't bet my money with what we have to work with here, but if I had to guess a bet, I'd say it's a pre-2017 MIM Fender Road Worn Jazz Bass neck that's been tamper with to tell a lie.

    P.S. When Fender MIM Road Worn Jazz Basses were still made with slab rosewood fretboard, pre-2017, they had pearloid marker dots like that neck has.

    Here's a 2013 example.

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  20. Andrew Eason

    Andrew Eason

    Oct 14, 2021
    Cool thank you, im gonna remove the date stamp thing, and go that route.
     
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