I just today bought a Washburn Force ABT 4-string bass- LOVING it so far!
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Heya Count Bassie------------Holy Smoke---does that say K851986? Yes, it does. When I highlighted the picture in blue, the SN then stands out pretty clearly. Your bass is 1985. I also found a "K" SN for 1985 in a 2009 post at Washburn where the guy says:"....G-5V with a droopy headstock. The serial # is K850576." I am pretty sure Matsumoko did not make it as I think they dropped out of Washburn production in 1984 IIRC and the "K" SN could very well been made by Kasugi in Japan. I do not think Washburn went to Samick in Korea thate early. I wish In knew for sure.
AB-95 for me. Bone stock, excellent condition. I can post photos when I return home.
Heya Ironbar---what is the serial number on the ABT? Is there any other name on it as to model? I think it is called a Force 4 ABT and the 5-stringer a Force 5 ABT. Anyone can chime in?
Interesting! So what's the story behind Kasugi? I'll Google that this afternoon... pretty cool, thanks for the info there, MEker!

Hi Guys!
About the Force 5, Force 5, in all the Washburn Catalogues that is available on their web site between 2005 and 2008 they are called Force 4 and Force 5 but after 2009 they are called Force4K and Force5K. I don't know why, but at least the bridge is not the same and I got to investigate to find other differences between the late ones and the entry years model? As Ironbar bass is a 2006 it should be Call Force 4.
Just my 2 cents!
I'll have to dig up the Kasuga info again for you. Glad you like the bass. It is a goodie!Pardon, just a note: Did a little homework and Kasuga is one of a whole slew of Japanese factories making guitars from the late 40s to the present... doesn't mention Washburn in the site I went to, but hey. It's out there. I like the bass, anyway- great for 'slap', which I've been away from and am now re-interested in.
Thanks for the info and enthusiasm anyway! Cool.![]()
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I have a black AB20 that is my couch guitar
I agree....Force 4 ABT (series) which separates it from the 1983 Force 4. And yes, he certainly has 2006. Did not know about the Force 4K and 5K...does the K tell us it was made in Korea?
I'll have to dig up the Kasuga info again for you. Glad you like the bass. It is a goodie!
The NV serial number begins like the serial number on my T-24.
Some say mine may have been made in Vietnam.
Here's the T-24 back of headstock:
Hey Ironbar and Staccato: I have heard that also as to being made in Vietnam and lean in that direction as to the NV in the SN! I have left a post at the Washburn forum for some specifics as there are a couple of experts on modern serial numbers there. Hope I get a confirming response soon. I deal mainly with vintage Washies, but ALL of it is of interest to me.
Hey SP_EB4L: Do you think the NV indicates Vietnam on their basses?